View Full Version : Need guidance to upgrade!

8th June 2011, 12:12 AM
I currently have a very old longboard and beat up sail so I am looking to upgrade! I need a new board and sail that can help me improve, that will also work well on a relatively calm lake. When looking, I found the following: Starboard 110 liters, Mast, Boom, Sail (6.5 and 5.3) and Extension for $550. I weigh 150 pound. Is this setup to big of a jump from my beginner board? Does it need a lot of wind to get going?? Thanks!

8th June 2011, 05:25 AM
As a fellow longboarder ... and on a smaller lake ...

Why do we use longboards ?
1) flotation in very light winds AND windshadows ie much more than 110 liters
2) able to head upwind and get back home with centerboard ie not a shortboard
3) able to go in light winds without schlogging about...
4) best suited for a smaller lake with lighter winds and windshadows
5) and thus the most fun on a lake

the issue these days is - what is a decent replacement
i have asked this question here already, butt in terms of a heavyweight
perhaps for a lighter person like yourself, you may have more SB options

Roger is the man and i hope he chimes in


8th June 2011, 11:28 AM
Hi Jess,
Define "relatively calm"?
Do you plane on your long board?
What size rig are you using (your beat up sail)?
At 150 lbs, you could go with something like a Rio M and have the best possible compromise
between a long board, and a short board.
With the retractable centerboard down, you have a longboard (well, not so long as what you have
now, but certainly not a "shortboard".
Retract the centerboard and you have a large shortboard that can test your shortboard skills, and which
actually planes fairly early.
Depending on your "relatively calm" lake's windspeeds, you will most likely want a larger rig with a >75%carbon content mast.
For the Rio M in around 10-12 knots, I would suggest at least an 8.5 m2 rig.
Hope this helps,

10th June 2011, 12:49 AM
Thank you very much for your help both of you!

10th June 2011, 01:56 AM
The important point is that shortboards are not fun at all when underpowered. They schlogg through water with the finesse of a barge.

Longer boards with a centerboards are the way to go for highly variable conditions. Compared to my old longboard, modern ones plane well too. Rio M is probably your best bet in the *board line-up. The Fanatic Viper and RRD Longrider are probably good too. If you have more money, the *board Phantom 320 would be great. I personally chose a Kona One, and I'm very happy with my purchase.