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rdrsurf
26th February 2012, 12:23 PM
I am 80 kg and - at least from my view - an experienced surfer. Up to now I am sailing a futura 122 from 2010 with NP hellcat 7,7 and V8 9,0 with a select freerace 44. For 2012 I would like increase my planing capabilities in light winds with 7 - 10 kn with my new H2 9,2. With these winds, my favorite location in souther italy is flat or slightly choppy.
However, gusts from time to time might even go up to 15kn.

Would the ultrasonic still work up to 15-18 kn with the H29,2 and the hellcat 7,7 (the with a 52 fin)

Or would overall the futura 131 or the ultrasonic be the best choice for me?

Maybe the F122 and the F131 might be to closse to each other and the F111 and the F131 might be the best combo? How about that ?

Appreciate your advice on this questions.THX

Regards, rdrsurf

BelSkorpio
26th February 2012, 02:00 PM
Because you already have a futura 122, the choice should be fairly easy, i.e. go for the Ultrasonic.
And if you really want to plane in 7-10 knots, then the US is the only logical choice (except formula).
I don't really understand why you bother for 15-18 knots, because these are excellent futura122 conditions. On the other hand if you really want to use the US in 15-18 knots, it's possible. I've already done it with my 8.8 rig. But I prefer to be on my IS122 + 8.8 in these conditions. Even my IS122 +7.8 would get me planing without too much reserve of course. I'm 87 kg.
Like you said, a F131 is much too close to your F122 and although you're a bit lighter than me, I doubt if it would get you planing in 7-10 knots. You'd have for sure a lot of problems going upwind.
You will also need a powerful soft fin (>=62) on the US in 7-10 knots and a 10+ rig. You can use all the lift you can get in these conditions.

Regards.

rdrsurf
28th February 2012, 08:30 PM
Thanks both for your advice. Ultrasonic carbon is ordered :D.

Would the 58 fin be Ok for the 9,2 H2 ? For the 7,7 hellcat a 52 or even 50 might be suitable ? Apart from the Drakes or Deboichets - does anybody have experiences with other fins, e.g. select or mfc for the ultrasonic.

I would be happy with a recommendation.

Regards

BelSkorpio
29th February 2012, 11:27 AM
I use the 58 fin successfully with my 8.8 sail. I think it is meant for a 9.5 sail, so for your 9,2 H2 it should also be perfect.

No experiences with select or mfc on the ultrasonic.

rdrsurf
4th March 2012, 09:19 AM
Thanks, great. The US will arrive in the next days. However, the required boardbag is currently not available from starboard. I would be happy for a hint, which boardbag fits well to the US . Thx and best regards.

MOP
4th March 2012, 05:48 PM
Maybe jp board bag light 90? anyone confirm this?
I have not seen a board bag from star board that fits ultrasonic and I find it strange...

MOP
4th March 2012, 05:59 PM
Is there a requiered board bag from starboard ? which one is that?

mark h
4th March 2012, 07:21 PM
Pat Love Core Maxi X Large 260 x 95cm should do the job nicely:)

rdrsurf
7th March 2012, 08:57 PM
US 147 carbon arrived yesterday! Looks great :o. Ordered Isonic L boardbag. I will report on the quality and fit. Hang loose rdrsurf

Stargazer
26th February 2013, 08:46 AM
Dear RDRSurf,

I'd like to hear from your experiences with the US i'm on the verge on buying a 2012 CArbon model as well .. I currently HAve a futura 111 and a fanatic RAy 145 LTD .. I'm planning to trade in the Ray for a US . I weigh 75 kg that would be 80 kg with a suit I guess .. And I'm still wondering whether the US would give me a big advantage over the RAy regarding early planning and speed ..
how do you experience the biard ?

thanks

Philip

Unregistered
26th February 2013, 10:03 PM
since the Ray is "only" 81 cm i anticipate the US will plane earlier
what i would like to know is speed - US vs Ray in 12 knots :-) once planing

BelSkorpio
27th February 2013, 11:02 AM
Personally, in marginal conditions, I'm not too much interested in speed but rahter in early planing.

But I reckon that the Ray could have a bit higher top speed.
A downwind slalom race with a few jibes around some buoys and I think the US147 will win again.
In figure-8 races or other races with some serious upwind racks, definitely the US.

Stargazer
27th February 2013, 02:14 PM
Hey, I just missed out on buying a US 2012 carbon in Holland .. he still has a wooden version for a good price .. wondering I would get that one ... I guess the .6 or something kg between the 2 versions won't make such a big difference for me as medium weight surfer.
There is another one second hand in England .. man these US boards are hard to get.
Does have anybody experience between wood and carbon?
Wood should be a smoother, stronger and impact resistant .. carbon stiffer and faster to respond. .. or is carbon really for the pro surfers. My futura 111 wood is an awesome board .. on the other hand I never surfed a starboard carbon .. but as it feels like my Ray LTD .. it's pretty stiff

I'd like to hear from you guys about this ... maybe it's worth waiting to buy an overyears board next year .. since the shape changed

rdrsurf
27th February 2013, 09:00 PM
Hi Philip,

the US carbon was my real favorite in 2012 and for sure will be for light wind conditions in 2013. Used it with NP Hellcat 7,7 and a 52 DRAKE and with NP H2 9,2 with the 58 DRAKE stockfin. With both sails it is a really amazing combo, easy to use, fast also in direct comparison to other more conventional large boards like 145 sharks or big futuras. Moreover the US has a much lighter and more sporty feel compared to the latter ones.

The best sensation of course is the planing capability in very very light winds and the capability to plane through lulls. This I valued particularly when sailing with 7,7 in changing conditions. All in all the US for me was a very good choice which might be even supplemented with a 10+ sail this year to even further lowering the hurdle to plane.

Don't expect big advantages from the slight change in shape of the 2013 model, so I would go for the 2012 US in carbon if you can get one.

Regards

rdrsurf

mcross19
28th February 2013, 08:46 AM
Stargazer, I cannot fully answer your question as I have not tried the wood version of the Ultrasonic but the 0.6Kg difference makes a bigger difference than you think, probably the equivalent of you losing 5Kg!

I have however tried wood version of the isonic and futura (an other brands) and all I will say is they feel less crisp, softer i.e handles chop better but as the Ultrasonic will be used in nothing but flatwater then I would try to get a carbon model.

Stargazer
28th February 2013, 02:58 PM
Thanks guys for the input,
too bad for the US carbon I had my sights on .. a visit form a burglar, {luckily nothing got stolen because the alarm system did its work} hampered the plans a little and when I contacted the shop yesterday he told me it was sold ...
Mcross, I see your board is still for sale .. unfortunately I rather trade in my board or sell mine .. I have a potential customer but he's trying to sell his board as well to get mine .. and so the circle goes round :-)

So I really should go for the carbon version . Rdrsurf .. I'm glad you can use your 7.7 on it .. I have a gaastra vapor 7.6.

mcross19
1st March 2013, 06:09 AM
Better be quick as someone from up north is in negotiations with the shop.