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2nd April 2007, 12:53 PM
I am 90Kg and use a F160 for recreational sailing. Use 2 or 3 cam sails around 10.5 most of the time in winds from 7k to 14k max
I dont worry about the ultimate max upwind angle, but want a fast fin with good lift and control in flat to rough water.
What fin should i choose?
2nd April 2007, 01:16 PM
Why not the one that comes with the board? When I tried it a few times I think it worked pretty well with my 11 Vapor and 95kg, as long as was not trying to plane in too little wind or going for max angle in +20 knots or otherwise playing with the boundaries of it's range.
That said at 90kg and from 7-14knots getting a good low-end fin like the Deb R19S-- +8 might make sense; at 90kg you should have no problems up until 14 knots. I'm currently waiting for one of these for my 160; but plan on using it with a 12 Vapor in less than 12-14knots only. Alternatively (probably the better choice) the R13S +8 is a very very good allround fin for the F160; especially if you do not really need the last degree of height at very low winds, and this fin will not not be overpowered before the sail for sure.
In your shoes I'd use the std. fin (if you have it?) or alternatively consider getting the R13S+8 which is a really good quiver-of-one fin.
2nd April 2007, 02:15 PM
I dont have the stock or in fact any fin yet.
Tried an R19, was very good upwind, but it felt like it dragged in all but racing angles.
2nd April 2007, 02:43 PM
That's the problem with racing fins I guess; they're not really made for anything but racing angles.. There's no doubt that the R13 will drag less; but if you are really not into extreme angles at all, and if you have decent technicue in chop, the R17 might be something too. I sometimes use it (mine's a S +8) with 11 and 9.5 when the wind picks up but water state is not too extreme. It's very fast and slippery and actually gets great angle when I can keep board speed high. The problem is that once board speed goes down the lift also decreases. This howeveer might not be so much of a problem if you don't need to hang upwind with other racers. Another drawback for me is that I am not precise enough in my footwork to make this fin work well in heavy chop. I tend to overload it and get spinouts (also because heavy chop limits speed upwind and thus lift) - but I guess my 95 kg may have some say here too. Steve Allen was able to wind the WC with this fin on a 160 in very changing conditions, so there's no doubt the fin is ok. If you can find one maybe give it a go?
But still; if you are not racing or anything why not just order the R13-copy that normally comes with the board from SB. It's pretty cheap compared to Debo fins too.
3rd April 2007, 06:21 AM
Thanks for suggestions. I have tried the first Drake formula that came with the F159 but did not find it very good.
The R17 sounds like a good possibility.I will try to test one.
3rd April 2007, 01:18 PM
Yes, the Drake fin that came with the 159 probably has too little rake for the 160, especially at your weight. The one that comes with the 160 is actually a lot better (no, not as good as a perfect-fit-to-style/weight Debo or Kashy, but quite ok) for the 160 imo. And it's cheap (from a Debo perspective) so it might be worth a try - especially compared to ordering a brand new Debo.
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