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2nd July 2012, 02:21 PM
Hi, I am looking for a Kids board for my 10yo son - he is pretty small 130cm, 29kg. He is proficient on an F2 Pheonix (320cm 180L) he can sail out, tack, come back, Jibe etc. However, The F2 is a barge for him. I have seen a Starsurfer Kids S (88L) with a 2.7 Tushingham Dino rig. I am a little concerned that 88L sounds very small - most of our sailing is in Portland Harbour (flat shallow water) however, we go camping every year in Spain (Bay of Rosas - same venue as World Cup event in June) - This year I will make a massive effort to get him windsurfing properly, ideally planning maybe even using a harness. Conditions are force 2 wind in the morning increasing to a force 5 in afternoon, In the morning the waves are pretty gentle, increasing to 1 - 2 feet high in afternoon
Would I be better off with the Starsurfer M with 117L?
5th July 2012, 03:40 PM
Hi, I don't feel like an expert, but I have kids and a Starsurfer M. My younger girl is 9 and 25 kg.
For your son, the M will be very stable again, kind of a barge too. However, it is much shorter and lighter than your other board. This will add a lot of maneuvrability and I am certain your son will like it.
The small might be better in fact, but it is really a question of skill. I had my kids try a 87l FSW board, so this is what I can compare too. This will float your son very well, and move fast and easy. However, lateral stability is not as good and my girl fell because of that. She didn't mind at first, but after a few times, she managed to scratch her knee on the board and doesn't want to use it anymore.
I guess that if your son is totally confident with handling the sail, he might be ready for more challenge. If not, don't push it too hard.
Also, the sail sizes are critical. When my girl is comfortable with a 2.0, she might not be able to handle the 2.5. The reason is simple, for me it would be changing from a 8.0 to a 10.0.
5th July 2012, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the info - I was very surprised yesterday, when I weighed my son and he is now 35kg - clearly grown a lot since Christmas
He is strong enough to handle a 2.5 without problem.
The Starsurf S is still 76cm wide, with the soft deck so much wider than the FSW, and less likely to scratch. Gut feed is that it should be OK, but he will grow out of it pretty quick, however, I also want to teach my daughter who is just 8
5th July 2012, 06:50 PM
The FSW board was 57 cm, so the Starsufer S will be stable enough.
I don't feel your son will grow out of the Small *sufer quickly because he will get better too. The board will float him well for a few years. Main difference for him will be stability, but he will rely less and less on the board for stability as he gets better and stability will be less important.
One nice feature of the board is that there are holes in the bottom to attach a leach. You can hold your daughter with a long rope and she will feel secure, even with offshore wind.
The central fin is also very important. The kids are so light that the board rails don't grab at all. The central fin is the only thing that can keep them upwind. I've seen other kids planing on the same board with the fin attached, so it is not much of an hindrance.
Finally, the back fin supplied with the board is way too big for a small 2.0 or 2.5 sail. (The back and center are the same plastic fins) It was impossible for my kids to tack the board. The reason follows: If you look at the board sideways with the fins attached, you can estimate the position of the board Center of Lateral Resistance. You will see that if the kids bring back their small sail on the board, its Center of Effort will always stay in front of the CLR, preventing them from turning upwind. You need to get a smaller fin or to cut down one of the plastic ones. I found an old 20 cm wave fin that works good. With a small fin in the back, the CLR moves closer to the center fin. With the sail attached at the back of the track, the kids will now be able to tack or to jibe, at their choice!
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