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WSguy
6th April 2007, 07:24 PM
Recently I bought a new O'Neil Psycho I to start my season. I have a four year old North 4.5/2.5 Race suit and a 17 year old Body Glove 3/4. Unfortunately, I've gained a little weight and the Body Glove has become too hard to put on at the beach. The North suit fits and is warm, but I don't want to sail in short sleeves right away. I find it hard to believe that the new Psycho I will be as warm or warmer than my other suits. The neoprene is thicker in the 4.5 sections of the North and there is much more 4 mm material in both suits than the O'Neil. I'm hoping I don't hit the cold water hereabouts and find out that I'm right. The salesman insisted that I will find the new suit warmer in spite of the fact that it is a thinner suit. Should I prepared for a shock?

Guest
19th April 2007, 09:00 PM
Lets hope so:D

Guest
19th April 2007, 09:04 PM
P.s its "wetsuits" and "O'neill" .And not wesuits,but its up to you what you wanna do in it :o

Guest
19th April 2007, 10:13 PM
Lets hope so

Bravo! Nominated for post of the month!

in his own words, "All others need not apply."


:D

nifty
20th April 2007, 04:46 PM
Hi WSguy, the 2/3mm Psycho works real well - toasty. You may be surprised.B)

windsurferdagg
20th April 2007, 07:20 PM
ya to give yuo an idea on how warm the new wetsuits are, i was out in minus 7 celcius in a 4/3... and was comfertable

Guest
20th April 2007, 07:39 PM
O.K. thanks for the pertinent replies. Too bad there are so many dingalings here. I didn't have the time to log in.

WSguy
20th April 2007, 08:11 PM
Now, I've logged in. Actually, from what they are saying there should be less restrictions on the blood flow because the suit is so stretchy. I'm going to head out soon.

Guest
20th April 2007, 11:37 PM
Actually, from what they are saying there should be less restrictions on the blood flow because the suit is so stretchy. I'm going to head out soon.

You should be plenty toasty, especially since you've been getting a thorough roasting down under. Keep up the good work!

Seabreeze Forums (http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=8)

Might want to keep your head in, so to speak, a tad longer:D

sailquik
22nd April 2007, 08:25 AM
New wetsuits are ALWAYS warmer than old ones. The old ones break down internally and lose their insulation properties. But I am of the firm convection (!) that a new thicker one is warmer than a new thinner one!

kingo
2nd May 2007, 07:42 PM
Hi Wsguy[rob,sinbad et all]So did you get a shock?

Guest
4th May 2007, 11:09 PM
Hi Wsguy[rob,sinbad et all]So did you get a shock?

A report in his own words:

Monday, I sailed Kalmus in the afternoon. There wasn't much wind, but
I wanted to test some new equipment including a wetsuit. Once again,
I was the only windsurfer on the water and had it to myself, something
which you can find most enjoyable in this sport. I certainly didn't
encounter the rather ridiculous posters who inhabit that beach during
the warm weather. Everything went well, although I realized I should
have stuck to starting out with one new component component at a time
as my first beach starts ended up rather abortive as the new harness
lines needed adjustments while the new board was rather tricky. I
knew I was running a risk of either muscle pulls or cramps, this being
my second day of the season windsurfing and my age creeping up on me.
I rigged a smaller sail than usually and as a consequence never was
able to use the foot straps. However, it definitely helped in the
battle against Father Time as the muscles never did end up
disasterously. I have not sailed Kalmus much and didn't realize that
it was so shallow at low tide. It's actually ideal for windsurfing at
low tide as the 50 cm freerace fin did touch the bottom at times, but
never to the point of danger. From the various weather services I
learned that water temps ran about 47 or 48 degree F. and I was never
cold with my gear, although I did waterstart often. By the end of
the session I got the hang of the new Naish Icon and was gybing.
However, I was rather exhausted and quit after a long session. Air
temps were in the low 60's F, too. Dry sailing, this was more
comfortable than my first session with the full gear on when the
temps were in the low 70's.

:o

Guest
5th May 2007, 03:27 AM
by looking at your picture you sure need a stretchy wetsuit Sinbad/WSguy/RobSwift

http://bp1.blogger.com/_uzqvzOUXE2E/RiNY_L7EvAI/AAAAAAAAACM/TSvWHMQzWcU/s1600-h/Bizzard05-A.JPG

WSguy
9th May 2007, 08:03 PM
Amazing how I have attracted a following on the internet. You would think I was someone like Kevin P. Whatever, I put in a few more days with the new suit. The air temps here have been rather low and unseasonable. Sunday was cloudy and we had a freeze watch out overnight all over New England. I didn't think that the suit was as effective with the low air temps. My old suits would have served me, perhaps not as well, but the differences are not huge. The big advantage would be the Z.E.N system which minimalized the amount of water running down my back after a fall in the water. The guy who sold it to me claimed that I wouldn't have been as comfortable in the 72 degree weather with the oldest suit as the new one has a way of breathing. I agree somewhat. It is easier to get on and off, but some of that has to do with the sizing and fit. Due to the fact that I had to lay up for a while to recover from my ankle injury, I gained some weight. Futhermore, when it comes to the rather stupid and nasty posting on Seabreeze that I have not read, let me give you my opinion of Australians in general. We in the states have a way of glamourizing them in the sense that they are "rugged", "outback adventurers". This appeals to many american's rather naive and simplistic attitudes towards the frontiers of civilization. Actually, most Australians are rather Provincial, Ignorant and Crude. Rather than being great outdoorsmen, I have realized that they are nothing more than a pack of dumb bumkins. Certainly, there are exceptions. The level of education there and amongst most windsurfers can't be seen as any more than ridiculous. Australians seem to know more about sheep dip than they do about onion dip. Anyone who picks up on the posting of this mentally ill stalker and buys it hook-line-and-sinker has my true pity. Ignorance is bliss, though, and @ssholes are like mushrooms, they just keep poping up. Finally, I just heard on the Paris Radio that 80 per cent of Australians exports go to the U.S. Windsurfers are like many of our inventions and technologies, they are taken up by our economic colonies and the dirty work of producing them for consumption falls to our vassals.

kingo
9th May 2007, 08:32 PM
Hey Wsguy,If you have not read what SOME Australians think of you.Why
have you then proceeded to bad mouth and cuss the entire nation?Seems
very strange[maybe you should read what they wrote].Or would you also like
to add racism to your list of quirks?'Pull yer neck in' i believe is the phrase
down under.Glad to hear your suit kept you toasty.

From a none Ozzy windsurfer.

WSguy
9th May 2007, 08:56 PM
The internet has become a very narrowing technology. Originally intended as a broadening experience, the world wide web has been taken over by very small groups of people who have very narrow interests and want to keep of it that way. What a few rather ignorant, stupid and nasty posters think of me is not of interest. People who attack others personally and ignore ideas are not the types of writers I read. In fact, like you, kingo, they are the types of writers I have been taught to ignore. Getting sucked into a mud-slinging match gains nothing. I couldn't care less where you windsurf, either. One other thing, (I'll not include the insult, but it starts with dip, contains the dipthong sh and ends with it), If I'm ever going to read a pack of attacking messages messages, I'm certainly not going to read them when I'm prevented from responding in kind. I find it rather dispicable that these people are allowed to give it, but they aren't going to give you a chance to give it back to them in kind. Obviously, they can't take criticism and will continue in their rather asnine attitude. The same goes for the people who run the Boards.UK forums. In their case, they will always support their magazine subscribers who usually are the rather jingoistic English from the low classes. Go over there and try and criticism them for attacking Germans and Americans in their rather shallow way.

kingo
9th May 2007, 10:22 PM
Hey WSguy,
Well it was a straight forward question[no mudslinging from my catapult]!
So in your mind its ok to slate people but not be slated oneself.I only
stated that i am not from Oz!I did not insult you[still have't]Just asked
a few questions,just intrested thats all.But if you can only reply with insults
i can see why doors keep slaming in your face.
P.s Australia was never one of the United States colonies,economic or otherwise.:D

barks
9th May 2007, 10:38 PM
Considering how the new wetsuit gets posters all heated up I'd say that new & stretchy rubber seems pretty effective...;)

Guest
9th May 2007, 11:48 PM
Whats the matter Swifty, your wet suit is now a bit to warm for you?:o:o

Don't the Aussies play fair. :D:D

Poor didums:(:(

Guest
9th May 2007, 11:50 PM
Sorry, but I couldn't agree with WSguy more both about Australians and posters on the Seabreeze forums.

Guest
10th May 2007, 12:07 AM
Well Bub

If you don't like the forums, nobodies twisting your arm forcing you to visit there. Everyone else there gets on fine.


Regarding wetsuits, Got a very nice Westsuit, Strecthy and toastyB)B)B)

Just a colonial boy:D:D

WSguy
10th May 2007, 06:45 PM
Who's visiting it? I'm certainly not as I've made quite clear. Besides, Bub, a handful of friends posting incessantly with stupid messages to each other doesn't make for a very good board at all.

Guest
10th May 2007, 07:54 PM
Posted on 10-05-2007 11:45
Who's visiting it? I'm certainly not as I've made quite clear. Besides, Bub, a handful of friends posting incessantly with stupid messages to each other doesn't make for a very good board at all.

You're right. I'm a WiSe Guy.


If you are concerned with the personality behind the posts, you are
not approaching the internet with an educated attitude. It's the
information, not the messenger that's important. If you don't like the information, you should be attacking it, not the messenger. This
is the educated approach to manly interaction.

Guest
10th May 2007, 08:12 PM
Guest wrote:
Posted on 10-05-2007 11:45
Who's visiting it? I'm certainly not as I've made quite clear. Besides, Bub, a handful of friends posting incessantly with stupid messages to each other doesn't make for a very good board at all.

You're right. I'm a WiSe Guy.


If you are concerned with the personality behind the posts, you are
not approaching the internet with an educated attitude. It's the
information, not the messenger that's important. If you don't like the information, you should be attacking it, not the messenger. This
is the educated approach to manly interaction.

HAHAHA if I remember correctly isnt that what you said on the Seabreeze forum WSguy?
You are a bloody wally mate!

oneup
19th May 2007, 06:35 PM
WSguy = Brucie, and he's not wise. In fact, he's a dumb dips**t.

But he is Swift and comes from a Swift family. :D