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benpfree
24th April 2007, 01:55 AM
Hi Kevin,

I've seen you and others recommend longer harness lines. Is this for wave sailing only or in general? I've tried longer lines recently for free-ride/bump-and jump sailing and I feel like it prevents me from having a comfortable upright stance. I feel like with longer lines I can't really get the downward pressure on the rig that I need. Am I doing something wrong? I feel much more comfortable with lines that are 20" or 22" compared to the 26 or 28" that a lot of people seem to be recommending.
thanks!
Ben

Kevin Pritchard
26th April 2007, 04:21 PM
Ben,

I think you are probably just not quite used to them and need more time on them. Once you do figure them out and get used to them you will enjoy them much more than your 22"

Kevin

AlexWind
26th April 2007, 05:20 PM
I've read this too!
Pros seam to have longer line than amateurs: here're two nice charts

http://www.windcam-news.it/wcnews/data/upimages/grafico_pro_%28499_x_282%29.jpg

http://www.windcam-news.it/wcnews/data/upimages/dati_pro_%28499_x_221%29.jpg

They are in italian but easy to understand anyway.
Cordini means line
Trapezio means harness (in this case harness type)
Lombare refers to wave harness type

Which is your line lenght Kevin?

RobSwift
28th April 2007, 05:30 AM
Lombare, does that mean seat or waist Trapezio in Englais?

AlexWind
28th April 2007, 07:14 PM
It means waist harness.
By the way, are the data about you correct? ;)

RobSwift
29th April 2007, 06:32 AM
It&#39;s >>Is the data<< or >>Is the Datum (plural)<<, nor >>are the Data<<. Actually, I use slightly longer harness lines than Robby in all truthfulness. Lombar means Back in latin as far as I know. I assumed that it meant waist, but I was wondering if all professional wear waist harnesses in all aspects of the sport. There&#39;s a former pro who I know that used a waist harness when he took up kiting and that was a carry-over from his free style competition. He recently sailed the atlantic in a boat and is learning Portuguese which prabably means he has changed to some other kind of harness.:o

AlexWind
29th April 2007, 07:53 AM
(Really!? It&#39;s a false friend! :D In latin you say um for singular and a for plural. Curriculum vitae singular, curricula vitae plural!)

Back to the topic, I think not all pros wear waist harnesses every time they sail. For instance in speed competitions they&#39;ll probably wear seat harnesses.
I don&#39;t have more details about the survey but I think it&#39;s about What type of harness do you prefer (generally speaking)?
Of course it isn&#39;t a very "scientific" question! B)

RobSwift
29th April 2007, 07:07 PM
I&#39;m prabably wrong as I haven&#39;t studied Latin in centuries. It&#39;s also been decades since I&#39;ve been in Italy. I&#39;m wondering what they call the different harnesses in French and German. On topic, I was wondering if a seat harness might require slightly longer lines than a waist. I tried new adjustable harness lines yesterday and had them comfortably at 36" and 37", seat harness and light winds.