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Peterk
26th August 2007, 10:53 PM
Probably not the correct term but I am noticing what looks like slight warping on the bottom of my carve 145. Some of the bubbling is only half inch long and maybe an eighth to quarter inch wide, but there is one that is about three inches long. One of them can be dented with a finger nail which leaves me to believe it is the paint. Has anyone experienced this problem? The board is an '05 and was purchased the end of last season, so it does not have a lot of miles on it.

If so, should I leave it alone and wait for it to peel of or should I remove it and touh it up?

Thanks

peter

jamieedodger
29th August 2007, 12:08 AM
Hi,

Im having exactly the same problem with my board, but its on the top and the bottom. But they arent as big as that. My board is an 06, 106 Kombat.
When I apply pressure on the bubbles, they burst and water comes out. I sail it in fresh-ish water only... so it cant be anything to do with salt.
And its never been abroad so it cant be pressure related.

Anyway , I asked one of the guys I sail with who owned a windsurfing shop, and he said it was probably when the non slip was applied, meaning slightly dodgy application/materials... However I then told him it was on the bottom too and he said it was the paint, which might also be dodgy. Or if the board is exposed to high and low temperatures it might cause it to warp and bubble.

But as long as it just seems to be on the surface I wouldn't worry about it, because it doesnt affect the structure.. apparently

I would just leave it and let it go its own way.

Jamie

Unregistered
29th August 2007, 01:45 AM
do either of you store your board in a board bag after using?

Unregistered
29th August 2007, 02:18 AM
see..why doesnt anybody realise that the old boards dont have any of these problems at all! my old red F2 axis has never done that, its completly bullet proof (ran straight into a rock with no magor damage and loads of catapults straight onto the nose and never gone through it) some people rather have hardcore boards rather than slightly lighter boards!

peterk123
29th August 2007, 03:00 AM
I keep mine in a bag sometimes but I unzip it. It is also stored in a garage so temperature changes are not drastic.

jamieedodger
29th September 2007, 06:01 AM
yup, same here, but its not often that it gets unzipped..

Mike T
30th September 2007, 08:01 AM
My thinking here is the same thing that happens to boats when they sit in the water, the gel coat starts to blister. Well I would think the same thing is happening with these boards if they are wet inside a board bag the moisture is trapped and the paint starts to blister and then The blisters hold water the next time you go sailing. Have you noticed boards that are always kept in bag wet that the paint turns yellow? I left my board in a wet bag for a couple of days and when I pulled it out it the bottom was yellow. After washing it with soft scrub it was white again. Try rinsing your board and sit it in the rack with out the board bag and then see if any other blisters form over a couple of months. Just my 2cents. Mike T

Unregistered
30th September 2007, 06:27 PM
If you stop storing the board in a board bag- the blistering will stop!
In the meantime- just get some 600 grit sandpaper with a block and sand the blisters off.
Its only the paint- nothing structural.
The blisting occurs due to the moisture trapped in your bag and the paint.

steveC
1st October 2007, 12:26 AM
I wonder whether the quality of the paints used by Cobra International is contributing to the blistering problem. Frankly, I usually put my custom boards into their bags wet, but I don't quite zip up the bag completely. I leave about 8" of opening so the boards will eventually dry out, but it takes an extended period of time.

Maybe a pertinent point to highlight is that since 1990 I've always had a van, so I never really expose the bag to direct sun. Yet, the boards are regularly stored in the van, and until 2005, my vans were always parked outside and completely exposed to the elements.

I can say that over the years that some of them yellowed a bit, but that took some time. However, the more recent ones from 1998 and later don't appear to yellow like the older ones from the early 90s. I'm thinking that Zajicek started using a more robust paint. In any case, never a paint blister of any kind.

Jean-Marc
1st October 2007, 12:29 AM
The typical symptom of storing a board with wet footstraps in a closed boardbag is usually paint blistering/bubbling :

A) Limited Warranty
"We guarantee that our products are free of any defects or damage caused by workmanship or materials, for the duration of 12 months after purchase date. This warranty commitment does not cover any other claim conditions such as;

11) Damage or defects caused by storage of the board in closed, damp conditions (for example a wet boardbag)."

B) Maintenance
"Make sure to rinse off your board with fresh water frequently, and preferably after each time it has been exposed to sand and/or salt water."


Seasalt is highly hygroscopic (keeps moisture), so rinse it off with fresh water and store the board in its boardbag with the "cover" widely opened over the footstraps to let them dry.

Cheers !

JM

Jean-Marc
1st October 2007, 12:47 AM
I can say that over the years that some of them yellowed a bit, but that took some time.

SteveC,

The phenomenon of board yellowing is entirely chemical and is distinct from the present paint blistering/bubbling problem. See old discussion for explanation and remedy below :

http://2006.star-board.com/Forum/starbulletin/read.asp?ID=3541

Cheers !

JM

steveC
1st October 2007, 09:40 AM
Hi Jean-Marc,

I know that you're absolutely right about the yellowing situation, but frankly the old boards of mine that exhibited the problem have been retired for years. I still have them though, as they offered a valued life. Almost like my collection of exotic cars that I could have never afforded. The old sailboards are definitely worthy though, if only because they offering outstanding service in their viable life.

Undoubtedly, I'm sure that many folks feel the same about their favorite boards from the past, including many Starboards.

As an aside, I'm still striving for that Serenity. I'm really banking on the reality that the board will ultimately come with the taylored bag. For me, that's a prerequisite.

Jean-Marc
1st October 2007, 06:40 PM
Hi Jean-Marc,

I know that you're absolutely right about the yellowing situation, but frankly the old boards of mine that exhibited the problem have been retired for years. I still have them though, as they offered a valued life. Almost like my collection of exotic cars that I could have never afforded. The old sailboards are definitely worthy though, if only because they offering outstanding service in their viable life.

Undoubtedly, I'm sure that many folks feel the same about their favorite boards from the past, including many Starboards.

True. Yellowing is easier to detect on a white board but more difficult to see on a gray, blue, red or yellow board. Spiking the bottom hull with lemon juice should reveal whether or not some yellowing had occured or not.

As an aside, I'm still striving for that Serenity. I'm really banking on the reality that the board will ultimately come with the taylored bag. For me, that's a prerequisite.

Sorry guys for hijacking this thread beyond the original subject but have you SteveC made contact with the US distributor ? I see no reasons why you can't get the boardbag specifically tailored for the Serenity whith your order.

Cheers !

JM

steveC
2nd October 2007, 12:04 AM
Hi JM,

Yes, I coordinated with James Gallinger of Trident Sports and he recommended a retail firm, Boardsports, in the SF Bay area. My subsequent contacts with Boardsports seem to suggest that a deal could be put together, and I've been on hold since about the third week of August. Although Serenitys were available in NA, the bag was a point of delay. At the time, the leadtime for the bag was roughly estimated for October. Time will tell if everything materializes. Overall, I'm still hopeful.

Unregistered
2nd October 2007, 12:22 AM
check with Boardsports (Berkeley?) again, I've heard they are closing down next moth

steveC
2nd October 2007, 01:35 AM
To be a bit more specific about the firm, it was Boardsports School. It's my understanding that they operate out of a few locations, with the latest opening inside of Coyote Point within the last few months. But, to be safe, I'll check further. Thanks for the input.

taylormade
25th March 2009, 07:28 PM
I think the solution of blistered boards being stored improperly is a load of bull, if that were the case why does it only bubble on the bottom and not the top or rails, and expecially around the footstraps where it really holds moisture. This is just a solution corporate came up with to avoid having to stand behind their boards and lose money on warranty repairs or replacements. I have seen it happen to 3 starboard boards in addition to a bunch of leaking fin box problems. In my opinion its caused by poor quality control and poor materials and if starboard dont start standing behind their products I will never buy another one, there are too many GOOD board makers out there to choose from.