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jabapo
7th September 2007, 03:56 PM
Hi,
I am going to buy in second hand market a Startboard Start (100 x 280) and I an trying to llof for informacion about this board. I can not find it in the archive page of the Starboard main webpage. Firstly, I think this board is of 2003 because it has de symbol os startboard in the proa and with removable centre Jim Drake, and before 2003 the board has not got the symbol on the proa, Althought I am not sure, and I need to know the year and the lts. is has.

Can you help me?

Thx

Unregistered
8th September 2007, 04:35 AM
the starboard 2003 page is http://2003.star-board.com/ , hope you can find the info your looking for on here, i think they should put the archive links back on, the sites are still up but you have to know the address, whats the point in that!?

Unregistered
8th September 2007, 04:36 AM
whoops sorry, the website works but just after i posted that reply i realised that none of the links in products work! sorry :(

jabapo
8th September 2007, 05:27 AM
Thx, don't worry. I hope someone can answer my question.

Tony
8th September 2007, 10:27 AM
Thanks for you message Jabapo, I've fixed it already. Pls let me know if there's any other errors on our website.

Cheers,
Tony.

Unregistered
15th May 2011, 10:37 PM
I have tried severasl times to access the 2003 site and it does not work. accessing the product info or any other location on the site is not possible.

rod_r
16th May 2011, 10:52 AM
100 x 280 are the dimensions of the 2001 / 2002 model.
2001 had a diamond tail, 2002 similar but slightly rounder.
2003 was the first compact model and was only 255 long

IMO, the 2001 was the best, 2002 next, 2003 last

regards,

rod

Del Carpenter
17th May 2011, 12:58 AM
There were two Start models in 2003, a Start Small 255 cm long 180 ltrs 100 cm wide, and a Start Large 265 cm long 210 ltrs 110 cm wide (details taken from 2003 catalog).

The 2001 Start had a thick, white, half-moon, short Tuttle box centerboard (I have the 2001). The next "centerboard" change was to a thinner, black, deep Tuttle box centerboard with about the same depth but was longer front to back, extended further toward the stern. I think that change occurred in 2002. The 2003 Start had a 22 cm oblong, deep Tuttle centerboard. The next "centerboard" change was use of the "clipperbox" retractable daggerboard. I think that change occurred in 2004, but that is only a guess.

jpon2
1st September 2011, 09:59 AM
So which Start do I own according to the fins that came with it http://screencast.com/t/FuQ1xhttp://screencast.com/t/FuQ1xZe6XicnZe6Xicn (http://screencast.com/t/FuQ1xZe6Xicn) or the hull number (http://screencast.com/t/9dGasGiIM). The seller told me it was 2002 but on the Starboard website seems like the center fin has a different shape

Roger
1st September 2011, 11:52 AM
Hi jpon2,
I've notified the Starboard IT folks about the broken links on the archives.
As far as the center fin that you have, it was never a really sucessful design.
Not sure what year we had those (2001/2002/2003) but we never used them in the "A Taste of
Windsurfing" program as they made the Starts very hard to tack and jibe.
Better to find a shallow water similar to the one you have for the back of the board and put that in the
center fin slot as well.
Our best configuration was a 38 cm True Ames "Stubbie" in the rear fin slot and the std. 41 cm
Start rear fin in the center fin slot.
If you email me your hull's serial number I can probably trace the exact lineage of your board.
I only need the letters and numbers until you get to the "000's.
That will give us the year model and month/year it was prodiuced.
Email to:
sailquik@gmail.com
Roger

jpon2
2nd September 2011, 06:21 AM
It's U100100169

Roger
2nd September 2011, 07:56 AM
Hi jpon,
Hmmmm.... that would make it a 2002 board, manufactured @ Cobra on October 1st, 2000.
Does your board have a square stern or a more rounded stern.
The boards with the squared off stern cam out one year before the Starts with the rounder
stern.
I don't have my Starts here, but I will look at them this weekend.
I have one that's a 2001 model (I think) with the squared off stern, and one that's a 2002
model with the rounder stern, bit I need to check.
I may also be able to pull the shapes out of an old catalogue as well as the center fin config.
We will get to the bottom of this soon!
Roger

jpon2
3rd September 2011, 04:28 PM
The very tip of the stern is not visible in this pic (http://screencast.com/t/WZF7Daz9NoO) and I don't have time to run to the storage where I keep it but it might be enough. Here is another picture showing the whole board (http://screencast.com/t/zDQbAdIoVL)

rod_r
4th September 2011, 04:18 PM
my money is on 2001. the centre fin shape is 2001 but it's black, not white
another way to tell...the 2001 was 13kg, the 2002 was 14 kg

jpon2
5th September 2011, 08:15 AM
This guy seems to be doing OK with it http://youtu.be/rdkPwRWW91s You can even see the center fin at some point.

Roger
5th September 2011, 09:33 AM
Hi jpon2
Yes. the beach boys at the Windsurfing Place in Bonaire are truly amazing.
I think that's Caesar Finies.... he's very good, but there's another beachboy that's even
more amazing.
You have to realize that the water where he's doing these tricks is < 12" deep,
to the fins both touch the bottom some of the time.
I looked at your photo.
You can use the OEM center fin if you like, but it will slow your progress.
Also, you need to move the footstraps back on the board, or take them
off until you are ready to start planing.
The board will pretty much resist planing off easily if you are as far
forward as you have the footstraps (in the "trainer" positions as far forward
as possible).
You need to be further back on the board to elevate the front of the planing
surfaces before your Start will plane easily.
Also, the all the way forward footstrap position is in my opinion somewhat
dangerous.
If you drop the rig, and your foot is in the footstrap right next to the mast, you
may crush your foot inside the footstrap.
Using the same Start you have, in hundreds of lessons all over the USA, we never
allowed anyone on the board with the footstraps up forward... for liability reasons.
I disagree with Rod, I think your Start is indeed a 2002 built in late 2001.
The center fin Rod_r is suggesting (white in color) is not offset like yours.
The 2002/2003 Starts used variations of what you have.
They didn't work so we cut them off or better still, used the 41 cm Start
fin as the center fin and put a 38 cm True Ames Stubbie in the rear.
That gave the board much better maneuverability and solves some of
the issues using very small trainer sails.
Roger