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8th February 2008, 12:36 AM
I'm 39, 5ft8" & 150lbs. Looking at a progressive board that can be used primarily by myself and on occassion by my bride (same states 125lbs).
Will be sailing on Lakes in Alberta Canada
1. Have narrowed down to the GO but can't work out which model would be best?
2. I been advised I should get 4.5m2 & 5.5m2 sails. I would like the option of light to moderate wind for the next 2 seasons. What sail sizes are going to get the board of choice planning in both wind conditions?
3. Whats my closest supplier in Calgary, AB, Canada. Would like to build a relationship for future equipment upgrades?
8th February 2008, 05:03 AM
Did whomever advsed you to get 4.5 m2 and 5.5 m2 rigs suggest that you will need close to 20 knots of wind to plane on pretty much any of the GO boards with thse relatively small sail sizes?
It sounds like they may have suggested these sail sizes based on the fact that you still need to learn the basics of windsurfing.
And, since your bride is smaller, it would be good for you to have very lightweight, but powerful rigs to learn on.
Women almost "require" lightweight powerful rigs that can be tuned to reduce power, if they are going to learn quickly and learn to love the sport.
Heavy rigs, or wave/bump and jump/freeride rigs in the 4.5 m2 -5.5 m2 range usually don't have much power and are quite heavy as they are built for wavesailing, bump and jump sailing or very strong (20 knots +) windspeeds.
Since you are small and so is your bride, one of the smaller GO boards would seem the best in the long term, but it won't be the best for you to learn on initially.
Smaller GO boards are less stable, and since you are sailing on freshwater lakes, you get no benefit of the better "float" of these smaller boards when sailed on salt water.
If you haven't already taken some lessons, it might be more cost effective to take a few lesssons to get the basics mastered, then look for a board of your own, as you will be over the first major hurdle in learning to windsurf, and will have the basic skills, balance and technique you need to progress quickly on a smaller more high performance GO board.
As far as which supplier is closest, I'd suggest an email to Tridentsports.com, the US and Canadian Distributor for Starboard.
Here's their link:
Trident Performance Sports
1576 Bay Street
North Vancouver, BC
Hope this helps,
8th February 2008, 07:31 AM
I have taken lesson and have the basics down as has my bride. We are wanting to get a board that we can progress on over the next few years improving on the skills we have learn't.
What do you think? High volume Go or Rio? Please give me some advice on sail size for plainning one of these beauties.
Thanks so much,
8th February 2008, 08:22 AM
What boards did you use for your lessons?
Did they have a centerboard, and did you use the centerboard (daggerboard) all the time.
If you move directly to a GO or Futura, you won't have the option of a centerboard or centerfin, so that may be an "unexplored area" for both of you.
What size rigs did you use for your lessons?
What windspeeds do you anticipate sailing in.......12 knots....14 knots....16 knots....18 knots..... more?
The available windspeed will be a huge factor in what size rigs you need to plane.
If 8-12 knots, then a 7.5-8.5 m2 rig would be about the minimum size required to get a 150# sailor planing on the GO 155 or Futura 155.
If 12-16 knots then 6.5-7.5 m2 will get you planing most of the time.
If the windspeed is more than 15 knots then 5.5-6.5 m2 rigs would be good and keep you planing.
If more than 18 knots, then the sizes (4.5 & 5.5 m2) recommended will work.
If you get a larger wider GO, or the Rio S you might get planing a little sooner. The Rio would give you the security of a centerboard, but the added weight of the Tufskin, plus the Clipperbox III centerboard is not going give the same performance as the GO 155 or
166 down the road. The GO 166 could be very good initially, but since you are both small and lightweight (relatively speaking) you will outgrow the 166 much sooner than the GO/Futura 155.
Also, the new Rios are longer and narrower, so if you learned on some sort of longboard (not a Start or Rio) then you will get more light wind performance from the Rio, but it won't plane as soon as the wider GO/Futura.
Lot's of options here.
Neither you nor your bride need really high volume as you probably have passed the point where you need a high stability, high volume board.
So, you might even look for something smaller in the 135 liter range.
It will be a full on shortboard, with no provision for a centerboard, but it sounds like you may be ready for this type of board.
If you feel up to a little bit of a challenge, and you've both sailed without a centerboard, then look at the GO 133 or Futura 133. These 2 are 76 cm wide (plenty wide enough) and have plenty of volume for either you or your bride.
These boards have significantly more "down the road" usefulness than a Rio M/S or the larger GO 155/166.
A little more fragile in the Futura construction vs the GO Tufskin, but the lighter weight will pay dividends in performance later on.
Hope this helps,
8th February 2008, 09:38 PM
Welcome to sailing in Alberta. I sail at Oldman dam and Pine coule, (only two more months till ice off lake). I Have the Go 180 and it works great,but only for those light days. On the website you had the link to there are some boards and sails for sale. Even a Bic 170 formula board (very durable) check it out. See you on the lake.
16th February 2008, 02:19 AM
Thx Andrew I'll check that out. Having had experience in Alberta. Can you offer us any advice on what rig to get into? Any advice would be great.
17th February 2008, 04:00 AM
Roger is trying hard to give you some good advice here but your not giving him much to work with. Read his post of 8 February and try to answer all his questions. He really knows what he's talking about. You've got a lot of fun coming up once you get your own gear.
20th February 2008, 09:41 AM
I would suggest you do not use anything smaller than a 7.0 for the light to medium conditions. I am a lot larger than you and need at least a 10 metre to get going in those conditions. Windaddiction in Toronto is good they ship anywhere, there is a guy in Calgary whom sells boards you can find him on buy-sell .com under water sports. I would suggest getting a used board then you can progress with out much expence.
22nd February 2008, 05:40 AM
Thanks everyone, I'm obviously entrering a new phase and learning so much frome your advice and questions.
Roger, our previous experience has been on a variety of rented and school use long boards with a centerboard. We will be sailing in light to moderate conditions as we aren't ready for the big time yet. 6 to 14 knots I believe is going to be normal for our area and our maximum range.
I like your advice on looking to the Go 155 as this would provide us both with a new challenge initially and enable us to be more aggressive down the road.
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