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mert
4th March 2008, 02:22 AM
Im 70 kg and the wind range is around 15 to 25 knots here. What do u guys suggest me to buy 96 or 101? that would be used mainly in all conditions but at the same time would go really fast.

mark h
4th March 2008, 02:59 AM
Hi Mert
Looking at your weight, I'd look at the 96 as the 101 might start to feel biggish in 25k winds. For 15k to 25k & if your not slalom racing, I'd even consider an iS86.

Unregistered
5th March 2008, 12:29 AM
ill be slalom racing and looking for the best board 2007-94 is also one of the choices so what is ur last suggestion?

mark h
5th March 2008, 03:46 AM
iS94 for sure. iS96 even better.

willy
19th March 2008, 06:09 AM
Hi Mert, hi Mark

As I have the same weight and am close to get a new SB need some little advise the same as Mert but the difference is that we have winds up to 20 knots max and want to go fast, have no technique issues and should be used in all wind conditions and 30 centimeters lake chop max.
Which iSonic should be for my conditions, the 96 or the 111

Unregistered
22nd March 2008, 03:45 PM
I think it would be better if u go with 101!

Unregistered
23rd March 2008, 06:23 PM
Only you can answer your question with the info provided. Obviously the width is the critical factor.
iSonic 96 = W59
iSonic 101 = W64

The 101 will be better for 15 to 18 knots. The 96 will be better for 19 to 25 knots.

If your primary use is the lower end of your range, then go for the 101.
If your primary use is the higher end of your range over 17/18 knots then go for the 96.

Personally, I would buy the 101 then get a cheap waveboard for high winds. Don't forget that 1 knot is a LOT of wind. When you are talking about 20 knots, I think you would have much more fun on a waveboard unless you have very clean slalom water conditions.

But I am not sure if you are talking about TRUE wind strengths or just the FALSE wind strengths of the tossas on the beach.

Unregistered
23rd March 2008, 06:25 PM
BTW a board with width of 64cm will be CRAP in 19 knots unless you sail on a flatwater lake with protected water.

My answer to your question is ....

Go for the 96 which will be ideal for 16 to 22 knots.

willy
24th March 2008, 09:54 AM
Hi UnRegistered,

Thanks a lot for your advise. As posted below, i sail in a lake with 30 centimeters chop max at 20 knots of wind max, still advised the is96?
The wind is checked at the shore with a wind gauge with it sensor at the top of a windsurfing mast.
regards,
willy

willy
24th March 2008, 09:58 AM
Sorry, i mean posted before.
willy

Unregistered
24th March 2008, 04:34 PM
QUOTE - "As posted below, i sail in a lake with 30 centimeters chop max at 20 knots of wind max, still advised the is96? "

BTW .. with these wind strengths are we are talking average or max? There is obviously a big difference. I am assuming average. So a 19 knot wind will have gusts to about 23 or 24 knots.

Hmm for lake type conditions, this would be my personal preference for a 70kg rider (same weight as me) .... thinking ... thinking ...

The is101 for 14 to 20 knots, then switch to cheap waveboard.

The is96 for 16 to 21 knots, then switch to cheap waveboard.

Final conclusion .... if it was my largest board (and perhaps only board) then definately the is101 to get max time on water.

willy
25th March 2008, 12:02 AM
Hi,

Thanks a lot for your conclusion i think i'll go for the is101.

regards,
willy

willy
25th March 2008, 08:50 AM
Hi Unreg,

by the way, do you know the real volume of the is101 and the is96 ?
where could i get it?
thankx

Unregistered
25th March 2008, 10:16 PM
Sorry mate. Not sure. Guess you have tried searching on the forums here.

To further back up the 101 conclusion, I have found that with the lightweight construction of these slalom/race boards (or bloody fast blasting boards) that you can handle a lot more wind compared to a board which may weigh an extra kg.

mark h
26th March 2008, 01:38 AM
There both 96 ltrs, but the iS101 will definetly feel "one size" bigger than the iS96 in 20k plus winds.

Cheers

willy
26th March 2008, 09:12 AM
Hi UnReg & Marc h,

Thnx a lot for your details, nice to know both IS have same volume, is there any web site to get all the IS volumes?
If so, nice to keep that in our files.

Regards,
willy

mark h
27th March 2008, 02:21 AM
Heres the ISAF list:

http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/ISAF_Approved_Series_Production_Slalom(06_07)-[1000].pdf?PHPSESSID=4de9b45c27825ad7c284b8404ff53f04

Cheers

Taty Frans
27th March 2008, 05:31 AM
Hi All,

I weight 73kg and Am about 173 in height..

If I had to choose I will not close my eyes and take one but i will see what benefits me and my $$$.

As a rider who gets to try almost all the boards, I will give you my opinion.

The 101 is a board that i personally like and I have sailed it in Open water with 1 meter swells and like the handling very well. it doens't get nervous like the 94 or 96 does..

Sailed with it with my 6.8 down to 6.3 and didn't had any problem even in overpwer conditions with wind 25 knots..

Maybe it's me that like big boards but with a 70kg the 101 It should be enough for you..

at 20 knots max, the 101 is sure a board to go for..

Taty

willy
28th March 2008, 05:49 AM
Hi Mark H
thanks for the link but seems is not working any more.

Hi Taty,
thanks for your suport i definately will go for the is101

regards,
willy

Screamer
30th March 2008, 05:41 PM
http://www.sailing.org/11672.php

Several pdf files for different years

willy
31st March 2008, 10:41 AM
Hi Screamer,

Great man.
Nice link for our files, i already downloaded all te pdf s.

Thanks a lot.

willy

SA 68
13th April 2008, 06:51 PM
Hey Guys

I am hoping that you can help, I have a similar problem, I have recently started racing and have found that my free ride gear is not up to it. I have recently got 2xNP V8's, 7,5 & 6,5M. I currently have a 06 Carve 111, which I have been really happy with until now, but it is just not competative with the Falcons.

I have placed an order for an Isonic 101 and from the dimensions I am hoping that it will plane earlier than the Carve and also be a lot faster- as my firends are getting away from me in lighter winds (13 knots) - we only have 2 or 3 races below 15 knots - the rest are between 15 and 30 knots

Am I correct in assuming that the wider tail is going to make a much bigger difference when racing in lighter winds? Will I get planing earlier on the Isonic 101 than the Carve 111. the rest of the dimensions are very similar to the Carve?

Oh I weigh 75kg - is the 101 the right board?

Look forward to hearing your comments

SA 68
29th May 2008, 03:09 PM
Gents

My new Isonic 101 has just arrived, and it looks like the wind is going to be blowing between 18 and 25 knots on the weekend, so things are looking pretty good.
I do have one question though - I have 2 slalom sails a 7.5 and 6.5. 2008 NP V8's, the 2 fins that came with the boards are 42 and 34cm fins - which sail to use in what range of winds, I generall use the 7.5 till about 19 knots, is the 42 not a bit big between 16 to 19 with the 7.5 or is it ok. isnt the 34 to small around 20 knots? I do have a mean 38 slalom that I have been using up till 20 knots.What do you suggest?

Maximus
30th May 2008, 12:45 PM
You can run the 42 & 34 with the 7.5. Change down to the 34 when getting to much back foot pressure. 34cm will be perfect with your 6.5

Remember add plenty of downhaul with the Isonics as they have low nose rocker and v8's have plenty of grunt anyway, so max it!

SA 68
30th May 2008, 02:55 PM
Thanks Maximus - will give it a bash - wind still looking great 18 - 25 knots tomorow and Sunday.

SA 68
2nd June 2008, 07:27 AM
Guys

Was out on the weekend in 20+ knots. I must tell you I was really impressed, I was sailing with my 08 NP V8 6.5 in 19 to 26 knots. I hit 28,4 knots on the GPS which I was pretty happy with as there was around half a meter+ of chop, and could feel that the board had a lot more speed in it, I must admit I was not going flat out (it was the first time I was on the board). I had the 36 cm fin on it and had no spin out at all.

I was really impressed as to how the board remained controlable through the gusts it was great - guys well done on designing a great board - now I just have to try it out in the lighter winds (13+knot) - I will update the thread once done.

So far exactly what I was looking for and can highly recomend for any sailor who weighs around 75kg and wants a slaolom board for 13 - 25knots.