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seasharp
9th March 2008, 10:24 PM
Just bought a 133 Futura and can't sail it because of the foot straps. Where I sail the water is 6 degrees and I need to wear winter boots but the footstraps won't go big enough to allow for them. I only have size 42 feet so big feet isn't the problem. Is this a basic design flaw and do I have to buy new straps? The straps on my JP are no problem at all.

Ola_H
10th March 2008, 12:23 AM
Straps are tight when new. By kneeding and pulling on them you can make them much bigger then what seems possible at first. For super big feet and boots it can still be problematic, but a your size it should work well.

Phill104
10th March 2008, 12:33 AM
I struggled the first time I used these straps. After a session or two I found myself tightening them up a bit as once they wore in a bit.

Tony, the owner of the shop at Brog (http://www.endless-summer.org.uk/) puts a bar through them (an old cut down boom arm) and gives them a good few pulls. It seems to work well opening them up.

cj0ne
10th March 2008, 01:08 AM
Tony has a great device a bit like a crow-bar but it does no damage.
Once you have stretched the straps and got them wet, store them with tennis balls stuffed in each time after use and they will gradually set like that.

.......alternatively fit some jp straps. They are hard to fault (sorry).

Pacs
10th March 2008, 08:17 PM
Hello,

I sailed ok last week qwith the new Futura without straps problems.

My foot size is 42 but i have a wide foot so sometimes i have problems to find acurate shape shoes for my foot.

I sail with ATAN boots ( the easier boots/straps i ever used).

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Try this:

- Release a bit straps screws.
- open all the velcros/zippers.
- Put your feet inside.
- Force with your foot to open the strap.
- Tight screws.

Releasing the straps screws allow neopren behind to strech a bit more and let you open more the straps.

Regards,

Paco

Roger
10th March 2008, 09:11 PM
Hi Seasharp,
When you installed the footstraps did you "spread them out" by one or two holes?
Are the straps too tight front to back or vertically.
They will open up an incredible amount UPWARD if you pull the velcro inner strap all the way loose, then really pull UP away from the board so the inner starp pulls back around the metal wire bail.
I have very wide sz 42 feet and even with thick bootes I have no problems with the footstraps on the Futura 133.
But, I ALWAYS install the footstraps with at least one hole extra as I find that if I can slide my foot fore and aft a little, and turn it so my heel pushes on the board a little more fore/aft I can trim the board out much better.
Footstraps are not like "ski bindings". They only need to hold your foot firmly to the board.
It's OK for your foot to be able to turn a little.
If you have no tried rear hole in the back to front hole in the front, please try it.
Hope this helps,

Ken
11th March 2008, 01:10 AM
I have an isonic (same straps), but the hole locations may be different than the Futura. However, I have 45/46 feet (US - 12) and the staps after 8 outings and several re-adjustments are still too tight with winter booties. They are OK but hopefully they will continue to stretch.

I haven't tried the crow bar except with my hand and arm.

The problem with the isonic is that the straps are so far outboard, so I have to rotate my feet in the straps to keep them from catching in the water.

Phill104
11th March 2008, 02:53 AM
The problem with the isonic is that the straps are so far outboard, so I have to rotate my feet in the straps to keep them from catching in the water.

When I first sailed the iSonic I had the same trouble (I have size 44 feet). On analysing my sailing I was not keeping the board flat. I've now adjusted my stance and no more problem. It has also improved my sailing and top speed. All it took was a little more toe pressure on the back foot.

I now have 3 iSonics and love them all but the 87 is my favourite.

Ken
11th March 2008, 08:31 AM
Phill104,

Thanks for the suggestion. I think I have the board pretty flat, but I will try the toe pressure a bit more and see if it helps.

Ken

GEM
11th March 2008, 10:33 AM
Starboard uses fine quality straps, it's the holes that are too close together.

The holes are fine for 42 wide, but for a 46 wide / 47, in booties, the only way I can get them to fit is to spend 30 minutes a strap taking them apart and trimming away the neoprene on the sides (i.e., right where the strap stick up from the board). The neoprene isn't really functional in this area anyway, if you wear booties.

The solution would be a third row of holes, at each end of the strap. Not much more weight, lots more functionality, still fewer holes than some boards.

The strap SETTINGS are one thing about Starboard that I detest.

Pacs
11th March 2008, 02:44 PM
Hi,

Try Starboard RACE straps (so big) and use "next hole" when screw to make it "wide" enough.

Regards,

Paco

namreh
11th March 2008, 03:49 PM
I had the same problem some weeks ago using for the first time my futura 111 (with shoesize 46 in winterboots).

No problems with my isonic, but the Futura-straps are indeed somewhat smaller, but in some weeks I hope it's already summer-boots time instead of those 6mm thick winter-boots.

seasharp
12th March 2008, 04:10 PM
Well I have tried everything to make them big enough and have ended up having to buy a set of Ultralight straps from a friend. Reading the last post I am now wondering if there has been a faulty batch of straps made. The bottom line is is that these just aren't long enough.

Ken
13th March 2008, 09:40 PM
I may have to retract my earlier statement about the straps on my Isonic 111 being too small. I got out yesterday (8th time on the board) and the straps keep streatching. Front straps are almost too big now and the back straps are a bit snug, but ok.

seasharp
14th March 2008, 04:07 PM
The Ultralight straps, when wet, seem to grip on to the latex of my Atan boots they may be OK with conventional neoprene boots. I have realised though that if you don't use the screw covers on the regular straps you can extend the straps as far as you want. It is only the screw covers attached to the neoprene sleeve that stop the straps from stretching and also cause them to retract when not in use. Wondering if I should have bought a JP Super Sport no hassle.

Unregistered
14th March 2008, 06:05 PM
I measured the distance between the screw holes in Starboard models a few years ago. There was a difference of a few mm between the widest and narrowest. With the narrowest spacing I could not get my foot into the strap, when it was set in the normal width. I have an extra wide foot and need a 45 boot. Using an extra hole to gain width allowed me to use the straps but at that stage they were too wide.
In a board that had a wider spacing between the screw holes I could use the straps in the normal setting. Others complained that the straps were too loose on that particular model. Obviously one size does not fit all.
Dakine Core Contour straps rise very close to the mounting screws and allow me to use a boot where I could not do so otherwise.
Many Starboard straps have a lot of bulk near the mounting screws. This results in difficulty in inserting wide feet.
There is an opportunity for some manufacturer to make a plastic fitting which would allow users to set the width to their own needs. The adjustment in straps is a height adjustment. A width adjustment would have to be at the point where the straps are mounted.