View Full Version : Best board in between F159 and ST115?

25th March 2008, 04:34 AM
I sail my F159 with a 10.3 sail and my ST115 with 5.75 to 6.5.
Theoretically I could drop directly from the F159/10.3 to the ST115/6.5 in about 20 knots of wind, but as I prefer always to be on the smallest possible board (more fun) I think about getting a board for my 8.5 no cam freerace sail?

Iīm 97 kgs and quite skilled.

Any recommendations are very appreciated. It would be nice if the extra board could work with the 6.5 for the gusty days too.


25th March 2008, 06:13 AM
Futura 133?

25th March 2008, 01:20 PM
Yeah, I was thinking about the Futura 133 too. What about the iSonic 122? How will it compare to the futura?


26th March 2008, 01:05 AM
Hi Per,

Just a thought or two about your situation. Have you thought about selling the ST115 and replacing it with the iSonic111, especially since the volume variance isn't that great between the two boards, yet the iSonic has a greater sail range capacity? Of course, a crucial point of certain is your weight, as it just might complicate things when using a larger sail.

Another thought would be selling the ST115 and picking up the Futura 122. The Futura would cover your desired sail range (5.75-8.5) and offer you a bit more floatation than the iSonic 111.

26th March 2008, 02:25 AM
Hi Steve.
Interesting thought. To make things even more messy I actually have an Aero 127 which I use mostly with my 6.5. The AE is a lovely board to throw around in chop or waves and it jibes excellently. Itīs just not really speedy and the outside strap position is a little too upright for me. Itīs a sort of out of context board but I really like it for playing around.
I love the St115 and I also use it with the straps inboard if I want to play a little with chop or jump it. With the straps in the outboard position itīs a very aggressive speedster. The isonic 111 would probably carry my 8.5 nicely and plane just as early as the Aero, but I wouldnīt switch my ST115 with it...

Futura 122 looks very interesting indeed. Maybe it could actually replace both my Aero and my St115, at least until the wind gets above 30 knots where I use the St with a 4.7 wave sail successfully. The Futra 122 has good strap positions for both speed and manouvers.
Liveīs hard when you have fun ;-)


26th March 2008, 02:29 AM
I believe it's not the best match to put a nocam sail on the iSonic (otherwise it would work well with an 8.5). I also think that Steve's recommendations are a bit on the small side (iS111 & Futura122), but it could work in a pinch if you want to get rid of your stype115. Since you are near 100kg, iS111 is a sinker for you and your 8.5. You don't want to overload any board with the absolute max sail it can carry, so you should look at iS122 or F133 size-wise.
As for comparison between iS and F (or any slalom vs freeride for that matter), I haven't sailed a Futura, but you can look here for some comments on the subject:

Edit: Per, I was posting at the same time obviously. Since you are using ST115 with a 6.5 sail (it can carry more), I also thought you could go slightly bigger than a F122 for your 8.5

26th March 2008, 10:23 PM
Hi Screamer.
Thanks.. Well the iS122 seems like a good bet too. My 8.5 is a Tushingham T-Bird, no-cam seven batten low footed freeride sail. It's actually quite fast and it has a very huge range. No problem sailing it in freerace mode (I've done 32 knots on my ST115 with a T-Bird 6.5 once) but of course it wouldn't win a world cup (I don't compete unless someone tries to overtake me;-).

The iS122/8.5 I guess would work well into the ST115 (or Aero with 6.5) range. That would give me a lot of choices in the middle wind range.
I don't know if the F133 is too much of a compromise. I guess the iS122 planes earlier and goes faster...


27th March 2008, 06:21 PM

I just went through the same decision. I was looking for a board inbetween my FType 158 and 115ltr freeride board. Something in the 8.5 sail range. I just purchased the ISonic 122. My feeling was I wanted the same compact feeling of the Ftype and not a tone-down freeride board in that range. The water conditions in that range where I sail are not too choppy, so the handling is not that critical. I go along with your thinking of if you have the budget and space to try to be on the smallest gear possible for the given conditions.

30th March 2008, 08:10 PM
What about S-type 137? Is it too close to the ST115? Will it plane early compared to the iSonic 122?
The obvious advantage seems that the ST137 will work very fine with my no-cam 8.5, and probably nice with my 6.5 too..

Any feed back will make my day ;-)


7th April 2008, 09:21 PM
If you want to play around in the waves, maybe you should consider switching to the Kombat 122, I am looking at making that move and selling my S-type 137.

I have mostly used the S-type 137 for just one sail, a 7.5 no-cam and it goes nicely, but once it is windier so that I could ride my 6.6 or smaller, the narrower boards feel much better, I'm 89 kg.

8th April 2008, 02:05 AM
Thanks, but as I mentioned a bit later in the thread I already have an Aero 127 which is very much the same as the Kombat 122. The AE is very loose and fun (the best jiber I've ever had) but it doesn't have the same powerful sailing style as the racier boards have.