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9th June 2008, 05:20 PM
Hi dear surfers !
I'm 193cm/115 kg, good surfer (not competitor) and I'd like to change one of my boards. I'd like an Isonic able to cope with 9,0 and 7,8 and there is a Isonic 145 available where I live.
Is ity a good choice or is it too large considering I already have a formula rig ?
I'd like something really fast and which feels like a slalom board, not a formula but would an Isonic 133 or 122 be suitable for me with 7,8 and 9,0 ?
My Formula quiver :
F2 FX 100 IV 2006
North Warp 11m 2006
Deboichet Custom: 70cm R13 and R19
Thank you for your help, greatly appreciated !!!!
9th June 2008, 05:27 PM
Just to clarify : I'll keep my formula, the iSONIC would replace an old race board (134l)
10th June 2008, 04:11 AM
HELP ! I really need to decide myself very soon and I don't know what to do !!!!
10th June 2008, 05:30 AM
I think you could go on 144/133 isonics, even if the 144 would be quite similar to your formula quiver..
10th June 2008, 07:46 AM
I don't consider myself lightweight (86-88kg), but I really think some heavyweights should chime in with the advice....
I have an iSonic122 for sails 7.3-9.0, but that's a sinker at your weight. The choice between 133 and 144 will depend on the fact do you need extra float (slogging etc) versus top speed/control. Since you used to sail your old raceboard (134lit) and have a larger board (Formula), I'd say go for a 133.
10th June 2008, 09:48 AM
For 9.0 and 7.8 sails I think you would like the iSonic 145. I think it will give you a faster, more "slalomy" ride than your formula board without requiring a huge amount of wind to get going. For a smaller guy, there might be too much overlap between the 145 and your formula board, but for you I think the combination is appropriate.
10th June 2008, 04:32 PM
Don't you think the 145 is too close to my formula rig ?
It' 80 cm wide and 145 l where my formula is 100 cm large and 154 l ...
I'm fine with 8,5 on my old race board (134l) why should it be different with newer boards ? I'm afraid I won't enjoy being with 7,5 or 7,8 on a 80 cm wide board :-(
10th June 2008, 10:31 PM
I think 100 -> 80 cm width is enough to make a big difference between the formula and the iSonic 145, but if you're happy on the older raceboard you might as well stick with it until it wears out.
10th June 2008, 10:52 PM
Sorry the 145 is 88,5 wide that's why I think its too close to 100.
The 133 07 is 80 wide and the 08 is 85 wide.
Which combo would work the best for my weight ?
11th June 2008, 06:01 PM
I don't think that 5cm will make a huge difference by itself, but I believe 2008 133 is a much improved board. Some users reported 2007 was hard to get planing, this is supposedly better now with the dual flat planing section.
12th June 2008, 01:26 AM
"I'd like something really fast and which feels like a slalom board, not a formula but would an Isonic 133 or 122 be suitable for me with 7,8 and 9,0 ?"
Given your weight, I would think that the 2008 iS144 would be your optimum pick. It virtually the same outline shape as the iS133, but its added volume specifically targets heavyweights for light wind slalom.
Regarding your concern that a board like the iS144 is too close to formula, I think that it's important to remember that the iS144 will be focused more on reaching rather the upwind/downwind attitude of formula.
In light of the fact that you pointed out that a 2007 iS145 was board available in your area, you might want to query a bit more about the pluses and minuses between the iS144 and the iS145 before making your decision.
12th June 2008, 03:28 AM
Ok, I guess the 2007 145 would be too similar to your formula... I'm remembering now it was very wide and looked more like an F-type than the other isonics.
I'll go with Screamer in reckoning that the 133 from either 2007 or 2008 would be fine for what you want (a fast slalom board for a 253 lb guy).
12th June 2008, 07:37 AM
You must be kidding recommending a iS133 over a iS144 for such a super heavy guy, given virtually the same outline shape. Do you imagine that he's super powered up most of the time?.
12th June 2008, 01:19 PM
Don't be fooled by the width of a board to say it's closer to a slalom or to a Formula. Rails shape and thickness, scoop-rocker line, outline, etc... are all key features as well.
2007 iSonic 145 : (free)Formula >>> slalom
2008 iSonic 144 : slalom >>> (free)Formula
For a heavy weight >90 kg, iSonic 144 is spot on WRT iSonic 133 IMHO as a large slalom board.
12th June 2008, 05:57 PM
Ok guys, thank you for your advice but I'm still hesitation and I have to decide myself very soon.
Considering that I have only the choice in my local area to get one of these boards :
- Isonic 145 (starboard 07) 224x88,5x145 ltrs
- AB + 80 (Anders Bringdal design 07) 235x80x134 ltrs
Which one would you take considering that :
- I have a Formula board with 11m
- I'm 115 kg
- I want to sail the new board with 7,5/8,5 and maybe 7,8/9,0 later on
- I want something really faster than my formula
Any advice appreciated !
12th June 2008, 10:59 PM
SteveC- I agree that the 2008 iS 144 would be the best for a huge guy like unregistered. I only recommended the 133 because I thought his choices were between the 133 and a 2007 iS 145, which, like Jean-Marc says, is a nearly 90 cm wide Free Formula.
Between the 07 iS 145 and the AB + 80 I don't know which would be best for unregistered. I guess it depend on whether or not he can slog and uphaul with just 134 liters.
13th June 2008, 01:29 AM
James, no problem. You're right that the both iS133 and iS122 seemed to be possible candidates mentioned by the original poster, and between these two the iS133 would be more suited. I guess my suggestion targeting the iS144 was predicated more on what the optimum board would be for such a heavy guy.
Given the bottom line choices mentioned in post #15, it seems to be more of an apples and oranges thing with very little room to move. Frankly, when considering an important investment like this, I like to go for the optimum, even if that might mean spending more or having to wait for an order.
13th June 2008, 09:08 AM
Yes he's super heavyweight, and in isolation 144 is the board. But:
1. He already has a bigger board (Formula)
2. He already sail a 130lit board (and he doesn't complain about volume from what he says)
That's why I recommended 133. But that isn't available.
If the choice is only these two boards, go for the AB although I don't know that board.
2007 iSonic will be too much "free formula", less real slalom I guess
14th June 2008, 03:53 PM
To be the fastest guy on the block, iSonic 111 is spot on with a 7.5 and an 8.5 sail whereas iSonic 122 is spot on with a 7.8 and a 9.0 sail in pretty windy conditions. Both would be a sinker anyway for 115 kg.
If you want a safety buoyancy margin, iSonic 144 would be a semi-sinker for 115 kg (not the fastest of all but still faster than a Formula IMHO).
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