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Unregistered
10th July 2008, 03:33 AM
After years of waves and freestyle, I want to get some slalom gear. Don't want to buy loads of gear, just one board and two sails. Happy to run two different size masts, and to cover winds up to 20-25ish knots.

I'm 95kgs and pretty tall, so any recommendations on sail sizes and a board size?

Thanks in advance!

Unregistered
10th July 2008, 02:00 PM
isonic 133 with 9.0 and 7.5

Expander
11th July 2008, 03:08 PM
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IMHO, you have two choices:

1) a (relatively) expensive two slalom board choice (but with a perfect wind range coverage) where a 7 sqm. sail with 110-115 liters board (i.e. iSonic 111) is for medium to high wind and 9 sqm. sail with 130-135 liters slalom board (i.e iSonic 133) covers low wind range.

2) one slalom board choice, less expensive (but imho less efficient), where you could buy i.e. a iSonic 122 (2008 model) that, by all account, is a very polyvalent board capable to carry small to large sails (from 7 to 9) with good performances.

Pointing only on a iSonic 133, as suggested above, for using it in 7 sqm. range sails is (always in my opinion) a little restrictive because this board is designed for light to medium winds.

- Exp.

Ken
12th July 2008, 01:46 AM
I have an iSonic 111 (108 liters) and weigh 79kg. At 95 kg, the 111 will be a sinker and a challenge to uphaul if that is necessary. I use the board with my 6.6, 7.4 and 8.4 race sails and all work great. I have tried a 5.8 sail twice on the 111 to see how it would go. Only problem was the rough water in 20+ knots, the board was too big for the choppy conditions.

Unregistered
12th July 2008, 02:06 AM
Sounds good, going to OTC next week so I'll try a few board and sail combos out.

Was thinking I could get away with a smaller board, 100 - 110 litres, but guess I'll need more...

Thanks again.

mark h
12th July 2008, 02:58 AM
Hi Unreg
As a comparison, I'm 105kg & 192cm. All good advice above, but really depends on your prefered wind range/conditions. On the basis that wave & freestyle have been your thing for years, I'd guess you'll get more kicks/fun sailing out of the comfort zone.

During the last 3-years, the most used slalom combo I used was a Sonic 100 & a NS Warp 7.6 (with 31cm & 35cm fins). This combo did me from 15 knots to 25 knots and remained good fast fun in that range. A warp 6.4m was used if the wind picked up more, but after getting use to the 7.6m on the S100, the 6.4m just felt to small on it (or the S100 felt to big for 6.4m!!). Its a very usefull combo as 1 x board/2 x sails/2 x fins and covered 90% of my local conditions, so very hard to make a "wrong call" and be out on the wrong kit.

Things have moved on alot since the Sonic 100. Have you had a look at the iS96? A two sail quiver in modern slalom sails, say one at 6m to 6.5m and a second at 7.2 to 7.8m should cover you from 15 knots to 30 knots easily, and it will be competitive in this range.

The only prob with the above suggestion is, if the winds are lower than 15 knots, its going to be cr*p, thats where the bigger kit comes in. I know alot of guys/girls will disagree with me, but I think a wave sailor would have more fun on 58cm wide slalom (more traditional) than 68/85cm (modern short/wide) slalom.

Safe option is like Expander says, 2x board solution.

Unregistered
12th July 2008, 06:15 AM
Gentlemen,
What part of "one board" dont you understand ?
If you are going to compete "up to" 25kts at your weight, you will be very close to 7.5 and 9.0 amd probably very close to 133.
Chris Pressler help us out here.
Thanks !

SimonH
12th July 2008, 06:51 AM
The guy is wanting to sail in 20 knots. That is pretty windy. I'm 95 kg and would be using a 7.5 or 6.8 in those wind conditions. A 100 litre board would be fine. I can uphaul my sonic 95 with no problem.

If you want to to just blast around and have some fun a sonic 100 would do you fine. They are very cheap and are as fast as newer slalom boards if not faster. A 32 techtonics falcon goes with it very well.

Unregistered
13th July 2008, 12:33 AM
Poster 7 said:
Gentlemen, What part of "one board" dont you understand ?

think poster 7 might need to improve his/her early planing skills cause 7.5/9m and iS133 is just stupid advice, do-able but who wants to use a 85cm wide board in 25k. At 95kg, poster 1 is a heavy weight, not a super heavy weight (AKA Finian/Bjorn).

Poster 1 has not said he wants to "compete". For max wind range, light/med/high Sonic 100/95 or iS96 with a 7.8 & 6.3 to give poster 1 a range of 15k to 30k easily.

Possibly a iS101, Just depends if he/she is at the low-end or higher wind end. But iS133 is no fun in 25knots, period.

Unregistered
13th July 2008, 12:38 AM
Poster 7 said:
Gentlemen, What part of "one board" dont you understand ?

think poster 7 might need to improve his/her early planing skills cause 7.5/9m and iS133 is just stupid advice, do-able but who wants to use a 85cm wide board in 25k. At 95kg, poster 1 is a heavy weight, not a super heavy weight (AKA Finian/Bjorn).

Poster 1 has not said he wants to "compete". For max wind range, light/med/high Sonic 100/95 or iS96 with a 7.8 & 6.3 to give poster 1 a range of 15k to 30k easily.

Possibly a iS101, Just depends if there in uper or lower end of the wind range. But iS133 is no fun in 25knots, period.

Poster1, whats the wind minimums your looking at?

Unregistered
13th July 2008, 12:41 AM
Oooops, dont no why my last post (10) is giant quote. Must have hit the wrong button

Unregistered
14th July 2008, 11:28 PM
One board will always bring compromise. His top end is 20-25, so one assumes that the rest of the time, will be at lower wind speeds.
Racers will know its "go big or go home" and I think Naish once said "there's worse things than being overpowered".
Even if he is not racing, he may well want to be planing for the maximum amount of time and an IS96 with 7.8 & 6.3 wont achieve that. I agree the 133 may be slightly big but he needs to be closer to 133 than 96.

mark h
15th July 2008, 03:43 AM
Poster 12. Fair point. If he/she is at the lower end, maybe a compromise would be a iS101/111. The iS111 pretty good in chop but still pretty flighty in 25k.

Unregistered
16th July 2008, 01:23 AM
GO BIG OR GO HOME !!


Brazilian Dominates Highland Spring HIHO 2008

Brazilian pro racer Wilhelm Schurmann aced this years Highland Spring HIHO event. The top ranked Formula racer won all seven races in the events 6-day schedule.
“Schurmann made it look easy,” said race director Simon Woods. “He was first off the line at every start, and always first to finish.”
Schurmann sailed a 10.0 V8 sail and used the stock Techno 2 race fin
throughout the event. “It was the perfect set-up for the 15-18 knot winds we had all week”, he said. “I was always set-up just right- fast and in-control on the long inter-island legs.”

Unregistered
16th July 2008, 04:32 AM
You cant compair HiHo with say Europe as the warm winds on the HiHo feel way weaker than the cooler euro winds.