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veedot
16th October 2008, 01:44 AM
Hi Ian/Remi/Chris!

I have an iS111 08, but I am thinking of upgrading to a 09 model. I hope the answers to these questions will help me decide on what to do...

1. How would you compare these two boards in terms of early planing, planing through the lulls, speed and control? Is there any difference? (The change of the planing threshold and planing through the lulls is what actually interests me the most.)

2. What difference should I expect from the double winger feature? I've read the explanation on the product page, but I not sure I really understand the benefits...

3. I am 75kg and want the use the board in ca. 12-20 knots winds with the 8.3 and 6.8 sails. Should I perhaps go for the 122 instead of 111?

Thanks a lot, cheers,
v.

nonopr
16th October 2008, 05:38 AM
My 2 cents:
I have the same weight as you and I am using the 111 from 6.6 up to 8.4. Uless you want to use a 9.2 sail I would not go for 122 iSonic. Having a NEw 2009 Isonic will be sweet but not until They prove it is a lot faster and better than 2008.

Remi
16th October 2008, 07:47 AM
Hi Veedot,

The iSonic 111 2009 is a bit more confortable but the main inprove is the top end speed with less physical demand.

All the best

DEN-137
17th October 2008, 03:23 AM
what about Isonic 76 are there big difference on 2008 or 2009 boards? my weigth is 70 kg and jeg have a isonic 87 but I want a board some think i bit when i stand on it, more a hard winds board.
anynone some have this board and know it?

DEN-137

Remi
17th October 2008, 12:59 PM
Hi DEN-137,

The main diference there is between this 2 boards is the Dual Flat Concept who give a better lengh balance to the board and more confort and more easy to increase your speed.

All the best

torc
17th October 2008, 07:45 PM
Hi. I have restarted windsurfing 4 years ago (after 17 years break) and now mainly sail Formula (in Northern Norway). Now I am thinking of getting another board when the wind picks up- from time to time- and are looking at the iSonic 111. I sail Formula (10.7 & 9,8) up to about 26 knots but are thinking of an iSonic 111 for a windrange of maybe 18-30+ knots. I need some advice & tips on sailsizes (2 riggs) to best cover this windrange with the IS111 (I am 86kg).

Ken
18th October 2008, 01:07 AM
Torc,

I am sure that Remi will offer some suggestions, but I have an 08 iS 111 and weigh 79Kg.

I too sail Formula.

My primary sails for the 111 are 7.6 & 6.6. I also use an 8.4 and I tried a 5.7 once. Sweet spot is about 7.5. For me, the wind range for the 111 is 12 knots to 22 knots. When it's 20 knots plus I get on a smaller board for free sailing.

The 111 is a rough ride where I sail, but is better in open water where the waves / chop are further apart. For me, the board is a bit large for winds over 20 knots.

If you wanted just two sails to cover the 111, maybe a 6.5 and 8.0.

DEN-137
18th October 2008, 02:14 AM
Hi Remi.
thanks !

Chris Pressler
18th October 2008, 04:26 PM
Hi Torc,
looks like you are looking for an iSonic, which also works in stronger wind. I would suggest the 101. The board is compact and easy in jibing. I carries sails (Sweet spot) 6,5 - 7,5, but you will have fun using a bit smaller or a bit bigger, too.
Ken is absolutely right with his recommendations. We also sailed 9,0 on the 111 2009 protos while testing and the board felt pretty nice. Definitely the 111 08 has great speed, but out of my view the 2009 can handle a wider windrange, accelerates amazing and carries a wide range of sailsizes.
The iSonic 2009 is a good choice, if you want to combine your Formula Racing with Slalom sailing, but guess in your case, Torc, the iSonic 101 would fit better.

Chris

Sieger
25th October 2008, 03:50 AM
I agree with Chris. I got the new 101 2009. Perfect with 7.8 and 6.7
I always used boards widte 69 cm. and volume about 105 liter. The 101 with widte 64 and about 97 liter pick up very early from about 12 knots. I'am 85 Kg

Sieger

Waiting4wind
25th October 2008, 05:30 AM
FYI, here are some close up pics of the 09 Isonic 111, looks good.

http://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=42631


Just a quick question on fins, are the supplied Drake fins OK or will I see a substantial performance increase with replacement fins?

torc
28th October 2008, 08:25 PM
Hi, and thanks for some serious good advise, Ken, Chris and Sieger. It seems that everybody recomend the 101 and I guess you are right. It`s probably a bit small for me for starters (the 111 would be safer/easyer), but as soon I have got uset to a 101 it will probably be a better choise for me to cover some medium to hard wind slalom as a supplement to Formula sailing.

I have a friend that has two Severne Code Red-07 sails of 6,7 and 8,3kvm for sale. Maybe they could go well with the 101 for me (86 kg)?

torc
28th October 2008, 09:40 PM
But then again- the 111 gets a really good review in Plamchemag: "Its excellent overall speed in all tacks and all conditions is what makes it rewarding on a race course. It’s extremely versatile and has the ability to pull ahead of the game no matter what the conditions" (from the testpage).

Malloy
28th October 2008, 11:47 PM
FYI, here are some close up pics of the 09 Isonic 111, looks good.


I love the beer bottle :)

Waiting4wind
29th October 2008, 11:39 AM
I love the beer bottle :)

It's thirsty work that photography!

I've only had the new Isonic 111 on the water for a few hours and so far I'm loving it. It's been very quick to dial in and it's really improved my plane through gybes.

The other outstanding feature is the plush ride through chop. The harder you push it the more it locks into a very stable ride. I had it out in 20-25kts the other day with a 7.8m and even though I was at the limit with the sail the whole set up was nicely behaved.