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739
26th November 2008, 12:06 PM
I am thinking of trading in my Isonic 111 that is 2 years old for the `09 model but I have noticed that the new one uses smaller fins which concerns me?!?!
Will I be able to get on the plane with the new one as quickly as with the older one???
I would appreciate a comment from someone who has really tried them not just an extract from the current Isonic page!
Can one of the experts comment please!
Thank you!

erik
26th November 2008, 02:43 PM
HI,

I changed my isonics 2008 for the 2009 101/122/133

The planing inproved again in this years models. They glided very light over the water in lulls and with one little pump they plane. Great boards.

I don,t use the standard fins, i have spin out with them. I use the curtis rs6b.

have fun,

greetings from holland,

erik

Marko
26th November 2008, 04:35 PM
Hi Erik!

Do you think that new isonics suffer from less control in chop because of their improved planing in lighter winds?

I have is101 2007 which is FANTASTIC in chop, but suffer a bit in light wind.

I have is101/122 09 on order and I have plans to use 101 down to 5.5 and very demanding conditions (2007 is great for this).

thanks

erik
26th November 2008, 07:47 PM
Hi,

I sailed the 133 with 7,8 in 21 knots and big chop. The board stayed in control. I sailed 59 km per hour on it.
With the 101 i sailed with 5,8 with 38 knots and the board stayed on the water and felt great. i'm still tuning with footstraps and fins.

greetings from holland

erik

bora kozanoglu
29th November 2008, 08:56 PM
Hello

I am using 111 in most of the time in pwa and offical slalom events and this board is realy great..chop or flatwater doesnt matter; you can put from 6.7 till 8.4 and even 9.0 sometımes and the board has great coNtrol speed and planıng ability..and with 2009 model the top speed is also improved more..hope it helps

TUR 11

auraki
17th March 2009, 05:02 AM
How much do you weigh bora kozanoglu ?

Waiting4wind
17th March 2009, 03:21 PM
I use a 7.8m and 9m on the 111, at about 88kg. Both work well but the 9 is much better with a 48cm fin. You just need to be careful not to bury the nose and submarine while slogging.

CarlosD
17th March 2009, 10:23 PM
Hi 739,

I owned an IS111 2007, then changed for 2008 model and now Im sailing the 2009 .
As on 2008 the board had a wider tail than 2007, and wider again on 2009 between straps, the board not only plane earlier, but carry better the bigger sails (8.4-9.0), the sweetspot is as usual around 7.8. As regards control the 2009 model, rigged with a proper fin (forget drake stock fins) have and incredible high speed smoother ride, even on chopp, I guess that is in that aspect that double wingers are paying off.

auraki
18th March 2009, 01:02 AM
So it seems that for a 68 kg sailor, the 111 is the biggest joyce, but what' s with the 101 for light to medium wind ?
Whats the minimum in knots that I can sail efficiently with the 101 and how much with the 111 (with my 68 kg) and sails around 7-7.5 ?

Is there someone with experience to answer this ?:)

CarlosD
18th March 2009, 05:37 AM
Auraki,

considering your weight you will start planning at around 10 knots with THE IS111/7.5 M with goog pumping technique, but you will start sail efficiently at +-12 knots. With the IS101/7.5 you probably will start planning at 13 knots but you will start to feel that at 15 knots you will have a much better ride

auraki
19th March 2009, 03:03 AM
Your answer is very helpful thank you very much !

Has it some sense to say that I should choose the IS101 instead of the IS111 at a slalom race with 14/15 knots ? Or is the crucial point much more windy.


Auraki,

considering your weight you will start planning at around 10 knots with THE IS111/7.5 M with goog pumping technique, but you will start sail efficiently at +-12 knots. With the IS101/7.5 you probably will start planning at 13 knots but you will start to feel that at 15 knots you will have a much better ride

auraki
19th March 2009, 03:12 AM
Has it some sense to say that I should choose the IS101 instead of the IS111 at a slalom race with 14/15 knots ? Or is the crucial point much more windy.

CarlosD
19th March 2009, 05:15 AM
Hi Auraki ,

With sustained 14/15 knots I guess you will be more comfortable on the IS101/7.5m for your 68 kg. The sweetspot of the 101 for your weight is around 16/18 knots with a 6.5/7m sail

willy
19th March 2009, 08:25 AM
Hi there, hi Carlos, as i weight almost the same (70k), use the same IS 101 and use almost same sail size (7.2) i agree 100 % with Carlos; i need 13 kts to start planning and in 15 kts begins the fun, my IS 101 sweetest spot: 18 kts with my Koncept 6.6
Regards Carlos from Garzon Lake, Uruguay.
Guillermo

auraki
20th March 2009, 02:11 AM
Carlos said :
14-15 knots suit the 101 perfectly ok ( given the right sail ).
maybe 12-13 knots suit perfectly the 111 with half meter bigger sail.
I tried a 100 lt isonic of past years today but have to say that my impression was that the 7 meter sail was near to the maximum end. more cause the board than my ability to hold it.
I personally think that a 101 works good in higher winds with little smaller sails for my 68 kg.
To start planing in 13 knots and enjoy light to medium winds I suggest the 111 could be an easier, more comfortable machine.
Do you agree or am I wrong ?

auraki
20th March 2009, 02:16 AM
p.s. to what said above, Today I had about 15 knots

davide
20th March 2009, 11:40 AM
Carlos said :
14-15 knots suit the 101 perfectly ok ( given the right sail ).
maybe 12-13 knots suit perfectly the 111 with half meter bigger sail.
I tried a 100 lt isonic of past years today but have to say that my impression was that the 7 meter sail was near to the maximum end. more cause the board than my ability to hold it.
I personally think that a 101 works good in higher winds with little smaller sails for my 68 kg.
To start planing in 13 knots and enjoy light to medium winds I suggest the 111 could be an easier, more comfortable machine.
Do you agree or am I wrong ?
Can you get 2 boards? I am 70Kg and I have a Isonic 111 and a Carbon Art SL 58. In your case a combo Isonic 111 + 94 (or 86) would seem ideal. You will be VERY comfortable with the 94, and you can keep the 111 for those 7-7.5 days 8-10 Knots. I am quite amazed how well the IS-111 works in light air for me ...

bora kozanoglu
21st March 2009, 07:13 AM
Hi Auraki I weigh 85 kg

IOANNHS
21st May 2009, 01:09 PM
I had the isonic 111lt 2007,2008 and know 2009 model....
The 2009 is faster,it's planning ability is a bit better that the older ones,but the HUGE difference is it's jibe and that you are really comfortable in choppy conditions....i was amazed!!It was like if i was on a freeride board(at least)!!!
I weight 90kg and use it with a severne code red 8.3 (it's the only rig i use on this board from 12-28 knots)

Philsurf
29th May 2009, 06:36 PM
I had the isonic 111lt 2007,2008 and know 2009 model....
The 2009 is faster,it's planning ability is a bit better that the older ones,but the HUGE difference is it's jibe and that you are really comfortable in choppy conditions....i was amazed!!It was like if i was on a freeride board(at least)!!!
I weight 90kg and use it with a severne code red 8.3 (it's the only rig i use on this board from 12-28 knots)

What fin do you use with this set up IOANNHS?