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Caribsurf
30th December 2008, 01:12 AM
I meet this yoga girl and she showed me some yoga exercises. Specially one their you stand on one foot and mowing your arms over our head. (the tree) I had some problem whit the balance. She when told me to tighten and hold moullabanden. (its Indien for ass hole)
And I felt an instant increase of stability and balance, and was able to do that stance whit out any problem and where able to focus on my breathing. All good.
I thought it was pretty funny and asked her about it after. She said that your balance center of your body is sitting where and by tightening moullabanden you lower and center your balance. Or something like that.

So a few days ago I was training my jibing and tacking and remember that she told me. Tried it out whit the moullabanden and I felted more balanced specially whit the tacking transition part around the mast and in the take of after.

Is where anybody that have tried it? Or maybe doing it whit out thinking of it? Or is where any yoga surfers that already taken this to com on practice?

If not please try this out next time your on the water and wright here about your experience on the subject. Maybe its just imagination from my side. Will be an interesting experiment.
And if someone that's really good and can try it out in jumping and wave riding. (Iam not their yet)

Happy new year all of ya...

ps. Its may sound like a joke, so if some one that do yoga can confirm so please do.

Floyd
30th December 2008, 03:30 AM
What do you clench onto with your moullabanden ??

crazychemical
30th December 2008, 03:51 AM
i heard something simular but then with your abdominals. That i did try and it does work. If you tighten your muscles there you also lower your point of balance in a favorable position for high wind windsurfing. So if you're sailing bigger sails (oh dear, Floyd please don't shoot me ;)) tighter whaterver is under your harness and you get that effect. Though glutes and abdominal muscles are during a ride easier to contract than other muscles which in essense should be inhibited by your stance.

Caribsurf
30th December 2008, 04:05 AM
What do you clench onto with your moullabanden ??

You don't have to put anything in your moullabanden (you probably can if you in to stuff like that), just tighten you buttocks like you tighten the biceps. So they get hard.

I know it sounds funny, but try it and see if it helps your balance.

Caribsurf
30th December 2008, 04:18 AM
i heard something simular but then with your abdominals. That i did try and it does work. If you tighten your muscles there you also lower your point of balance in a favorable position for high wind windsurfing. So if you're sailing bigger sails (oh dear, Floyd please don't shoot me ;)) tighter whaterver is under your harness and you get that effect. Though glutes and abdominal muscles are during a ride easier to contract than other muscles which in essense should be inhibited by your stance.

Yes, Good input CC.

Then you tighten your lower abs you kind of automatically tighten you moullabanden to. It fells like that when I tried.

Floyd
30th December 2008, 04:46 AM
Wouldn`t dream of shooting you !

I know how everybody hangs on to bigger sails than me now !
They are cliging onto them with their moullabandens !
The secret is out. Dont tell the kiters !!!

Will try it though. Mind you it sounds hard work. I like to relax all muscles I aint using !!

Caribsurf
30th December 2008, 06:31 AM
Wouldn`t dream of shooting you !

I know how everybody hangs on to bigger sails than me now !
They are cliging onto them with their moullabandens !
The secret is out. Dont tell the kiters !!!

Will try it though. Mind you it sounds hard work. I like to relax all muscles I aint using !!

Haha...
yee don't tell them...

I think that you can train yourself to instant reflex moullabanden tension then you find yourself out of balance, like in a gust or just before an catapult.
So it may not be that hard work.

Unregistered
9th January 2009, 05:32 AM
It's not a joke, it's called the 'root lock' and is part of activating the small muscles that support the spine and so can help with many movements and balances, see
http://yoga.org.nz/postures/mulabandha.htm
the other main lock is the muscle running up the spine see
http://yoga.about.com/od/bandhas/Introduction_to_the_Bandhas_Interior_Body_Locks_Us ed_in_Yoga.htm

Pilates took the concept and emphasis it srongly too (natural after rebranding)

but they all agree you shouldn't clench your buttocks whhen doing it (a habit that's reckoned to be bad for the spine). It is not a huge tension, but a more subtle movement that can be held for long periods. Like the shoulder rotator cuffs all these stabilizing muscles often get overlooked in gym work.

I've often thought the harness itself must act like a weightlifters belt to some degree too. After all they don't seem to be as many back injuries in W/S as you might expect when weekend warroirs head out after a week in the office into a gale...

Floyd
9th January 2009, 06:54 AM
Harty recommends (on this site somewhere) you should sail lazy/relaxed .Tensioning any muscle (unnaturally) seems counter productive to me. Besides I`ve all on co-ordinating arms;legs etc etc without worrying about my molobdemum.

After a long session you would nt want those muscles tired for drinking session.

Floyd
9th January 2009, 06:58 AM
Quoting Harty
Windsurfing is all about being lazy. However windy, however fast you’re going, you’re always looking for the least energetic way to do something.

Unregistered
10th January 2009, 07:04 AM
Scott, we're talking about something yoga girls can manage for long periods - it's not supposed to be an enormous effort. The power has to go from harness to board somehow and on the Pro secrets video Scott Sanchez (trainer to the pros) emphasizes that without core strength the ligaments take the strain - usally resulting in injury. Simon B in Boards also talks of the core, which is Pilates talk for the torso and locks. To a large degree I bet this is done unconsciously by most of us. The question is by being aware of what we do it may be possible we can do it a little better. And train a little better.

Perhaps we should jump across and ask the big man his opinion. Spent a fun week in Tarifa with him many moons ago.

Unregistered
17th January 2009, 04:45 AM
and for the more practically minded these are the muslces you're trying to use
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multifidus_muscle

Caribsurf
13th April 2009, 10:14 PM
http://www.yogaforsurfers.com/Home.asp

Its for surfers do. So you guys dont need to check the improve you paddle skill chapter. It keep you flexible before and after a session. So now you have to drag you yoga mat to the beach also, like you didn't had enough stuff.
Its a lot of vids on youtube on the subject just search for Yoga for surfers.

Introduction video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnZ3FNyXUp4

carlosgp5
18th April 2009, 03:46 AM
i heard something simular but then with your abdominals. That i did try and it does work. If you tighten your muscles there you also lower your point of balance in a favorable position for high wind windsurfing. So if you're sailing bigger sails (oh dear, Floyd please don't shoot me ;)) tighter whaterver is under your harness and you get that effect. Though glutes and abdominal muscles are during a ride easier to contract than other muscles which in essense should be inhibited by your stance.

I also use big sails and I use to contract the abdominal muscles as a protection to my back. Even while trying to go upwind or maintaing speed on downwind Im also contracting the abdominals, and have never had any other back injuries. I use to have a lot of trouble with my back. Cheers