View Full Version : One board quiver?

1st March 2009, 05:22 AM

first of all, me: ~75kg rider, waterstarting, harness, straps, but still not "really" gibing...

Today I have a Kombat 97 -07, sailed w 4.7/5.7/6.4, and I am very happy with this board, have been thinking of adding a K79 for higher winds. Only thing I am missing is that I wish I could use bigger sail, and get going with less wind...

For some reasons I sometime spend time away, and have no possibilites to bring a complete equipment, and therefore I am thinking of getting another board, so I only would have to bring the rigs with me...
Have been thinking about:
-JP Supersport 109/116
-Fanatic Hawk 108
-Kombat/Kode 107/105
-Futura 101

I have only tested the Kombat(97) so I need input from all of you guys, pros and cons... the board will be used in choppy -> small swell conditions.
The F101 seems interesting since it does have a big sailrange (thinking of adding a Hellcat 7.2 or 7.7 to the sails, which one would be best suited for the board (and me), and add up most nicely to an existing Excess 6.4?
I know the Kombat loves to jump, but how is the Futura compared to the Kombat in this area?
How much would it really differ in top end speed Kombat/Kode vs Futura?
I guess the JP is the "blasting only", and maybe the Hawk is more willing to jump and do some basic freestyle, how is the Futura compared to these boards?

I have also been looking at iSonic, but since i don't want to spend fortunes on new rigs, and this new board will more or less be use on occasional basis mainly during summer, and there might be less experienced people wanting to try it out, I guess a fast freeride-slalom/freeracer is the way to go (or you can try to convince me other way...). Because of this I also need some durability, and since my K97 doesn't have a single dent after two seasons, my confidence in SB is quite good...

Drawback of Futura is that I have a set of old PB fins from an older board which currently cannot be used...

So, please share your opinions... :)

2nd March 2009, 02:10 AM
I donít think you can compare the Kode/Kombat to the Futura, that is like comparing apples to oranges. You could compare the Kode/Kombat to the Hawk as they are more similar in design intent, but if you are looking to let inexperienced people ride the board you may want to consider a bigger board.


3rd March 2009, 02:08 AM
I donít think you can compare the Kode/Kombat to the Futura, that is like comparing apples to oranges. You could compare the Kode/Kombat to the Hawk as they are more similar in design intent, but if you are looking to let inexperienced people ride the board you may want to consider a bigger board.


Ok, from that i understand that the Futura is more of racing/blasting, as the Kombat/Hawk is more of a freemove/B&J board... still, how would the Futura handle some long jumps when blasting over the wave crests...? I'm trying to find the similarities of the "old" S-types which obviously were okay jumpers (or am I wrong?).
Still the F101 (65 cm wide) maybe could give me some extra benefits while finetuning my gybes, compaer to my Kobat(61,5cm)?

3rd March 2009, 02:09 AM
..sorry, forgot to login... :-(

3rd March 2009, 12:57 PM
Any board will perform long jumps over wave crests. Heck, Iíve seen guys jump formula boards! So if you are talking long floating jumps, then you will be fine with the F101. The Futura is just not a board that you want to take into waves as its nose rocker is way too low.

Do you plan on keeping your Kombat? Then get the F101 as they are different boards for different conditions. Do you plan on selling your Kombat? Then get the F101 if you want to blast and launch long, floating jumps. Get the Kode if you plan on slashing, jumping & hitting some waves.


3rd March 2009, 01:04 PM
I rented a Fanatic Eagle 114 a few weeks ago in Egypt and must admit that I was pleasently surprised. It seemed as a very good combination of blasting and turning. If the 101 is anything similar then it could fit your needs.
I believe that Starboard and Exocet have made similar board range choises. The Futura and the S-Cross are both very much blasting, while the Kombat/Kode and Cross are FSW-style. Oddly enough Fanatic has squeezed in two boards in between, Eagle and Hawk.

3rd March 2009, 06:55 PM
And they are both Powerbox !!!

3rd March 2009, 09:08 PM
Yeah, that tuttle thing is why I waited so long to get the Futura. I have a nice set of powerbox fins for 56-65 cm winde boards, but all my tuttle fins are for 70 cm or wider boards. Kind of a pain having the exact same fin in the exact same size but with different tops. When push came to shove I liked the Futura more then the other options. But how many people will buy the other options because of the fin box?


4th March 2009, 12:39 AM
Oh no Coachg, now you've done it. The Tuttle/Powerbox debate again.

4th March 2009, 01:42 AM
Board's range segmenting made simple:

iSonic : dedicated slalom rocket
Futura : freeslalom/fast freeride
Kombat/Kode : freewave/freeride crossover

Cheers !


4th March 2009, 02:27 AM
Well, for the time being I will keep the Kombat, even though she (aren't boards always female...?) is very close in size to the F101, but as you say, it is a different board...

Still, if I like it too much, I guess I would like to have it available all the time for those lighter-wind days, and then I am (again) without a board on my "second" low-accessible spot (which is more freeride oriented, with smaller wave with high wind)... Luxury problems...? ;-)

Or maybe I should go with board a few years old, since it will be used on a more sporadic base... save some money, and upgrade my gear at home on a later date...?

Haven't seen so many used F101 for sale in my surroundings yet...

And sorry, I guess it was me mentioning the PB/tuttle problem to start with...

4th March 2009, 07:41 AM
hows about mini tuttle USbox, Futures, Probox

JP no,
the rest jury is still out, but like the Kode.

or Tabou 3S 107L

2nd April 2009, 09:27 PM
Never tried a Kombat, but if you want to sail in lighter winds a freeride board in the 112 ltr range will be great with your 6.4 to a 7.5 or greater.

I'm 70 kg and ive used mine with a 5,0 6.5 a 7.5.

Just look for something with decent width, 62-67 cm seems to be the standard with that volume.

Many people have steered me away from slalom boards as recreational freeride boards. They are efficient but a choppy wave state can make them a handful' i'm told. They plane early, but only with large rigs.

A more streamlined "traditional sailboard" outline of a freeride board needs a bit less horsepower to accelerate to a plane, yet is admittedly more likely to drop off the plane in a lull than a slalom, but at least will be comfortable if you're underpowered and have to slog somewhere. Jibing will be more like your Kombat. It will handle rough water and not overly stress your ankles.