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RadiantX
13th September 2009, 05:28 PM
I have a 2009 Kode86 which came with a 25cm Drake fin. I normally use either a 5.5m or 6m sail with this board in bump & jump/freeride conditions but I find I'm constantly spinning out and have trouble sailing upwind. Could be poor technique related but after doing some research on fin sizes it was suggested a 30ish cm fin would suit these sails better. However, when I look at the specs. on the Kode86 I see the max fin range is up to 26cm only. Max sail size 6m.

Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Is this only a rough guide and therefore a 30cm fin would be fine, or are the documented specs. a fairly accurate guide and therefore the 25cm supplied should be fine for these sail sizes?

I'm currently looking at either the MFC freewave or Select bump & Jump in about 30cm. Any thoughts on these fins?

Thanks!

Screamer
13th September 2009, 09:38 PM
Hi RadiantX

I've tried several fins on several Kombats, haven't sailed the Kode but it should be close enough. You need to change both fin size (to a bit bigger) but what's more important, a different fin type. 30 is too big no doubt, but max fin of 26 sounds too small to me - for a 6m sail. I've found for freeriding with 5.5/6.0, a fin of about 28 works great. I can recommend Drake Crossover and especially Select Freestylewave (which is excellent and comes in 27/29 sizes, if you're lighter go for 27, if you're heavy than 29).

And when it all starts to get out of control, go back to Drake 25 (just easier on the back foot pressure) - you may like it fully powered in very lumpy water.

Ola_H
14th September 2009, 03:12 AM
If you want tro trim the Kode 86 more for freeride you can for sure get bigger, stiffer and more upright fin like a Drake Crossover. 30cm is rather big though. It's possible if you want it, but int the end there is a risk it will rather promote bad technique and be unnecessarily difficult in jibes. I think max 28, maybe even smaller since a 26cm Drake Crossover will already be much more powerful than the 25cm Drake Natural.

RadiantX
14th September 2009, 05:42 AM
Thank you very much to both of you!

I probably should have mentioned my details. Competent rider, 81kg's. I'm assuming 80kg's is about average or a little over, but not on the heavy side?

One more question regarding Drake fins - is there a web address?

Thanks again.

Screamer
15th September 2009, 03:23 AM
The address used to be
http://www.drake-windsurfing.com/
But it doesn't work for several months already. You can see them here:
http://www.gunsails.co.uk/en/fins.htm
Drake Crossover 26/28 is comparable to a Select fsw 27/29, since the Select has rather small surface area for a given depth. If you want max alround range go for the smaller suggested. If you're after max power and upwind with a 6.0 then the larger.

RadiantX
15th September 2009, 06:27 AM
Thanks screamer!

The Drake Crossover in 28cm sounds good. I like Select fins also but find they often don't fit well in the fin box and require sanding (I have a few for my Futura), which might be hard to do for a US box I'm assuming if the fit isn't right?

Thanks again for all the help all, much appreciated!

Tony
15th September 2009, 01:44 PM
The address used to be
http://www.drake-windsurfing.com/
But it doesn't work for several months already. You can see them here:
http://www.gunsails.co.uk/en/fins.htm
Drake Crossover 26/28 is comparable to a Select fsw 27/29, since the Select has rather small surface area for a given depth. If you want max alround range go for the smaller suggested. If you're after max power and upwind with a 6.0 then the larger.

Thanks Screamer to point out the error, I've fixed it already. It should be online right now.

Screamer
15th September 2009, 05:59 PM
Tony
If you're in charge for maintaining that site, link for Crossover fin isn't working (spec/sizes).

RadiantX
16th September 2009, 06:51 PM
Just been informed Drake fins are not available in Australia as a separate item. So it looks as though the Drake Crossover is not an option anyway which is a pity. Will have to go with the Select FSW.

romomac
5th October 2009, 09:20 AM
RadiantX: I have had the same question for a while now. How did you resolve the fin issue? I actually tried a 30cm...then afterwards noticed the 26cm limit. I am surprised at how slow the board is, even with prime-time 5.3 m sail....Is it just me? I can't seem to dial-in the Kode.

RadiantX
6th October 2009, 01:10 PM
Hi romomac - I've since ordered a 26cm Drake Crossover from the UK which I'm hoping will arrive shortly. Will keep you updated with how I find it after a few sessions on the water.

romomac
7th October 2009, 11:37 AM
Thanks! Meanwhile, I'm going back out on the 30cm when I get the chance. If I lived on Maui I guess the subject of bigger fins would never come up!

Screamer
10th October 2009, 04:14 AM
Romomac
I haven't sailed the Kode (only various Kombats before it) and I've found 30cm a bit to much really. If anything it made the boards SLOWER and less responsive.

romomac
11th October 2009, 02:52 AM
Screamer...Thanks. I just removed about 2 cm from the 30...It's probably too much at 30, so might as well try it, "shaved down"... Sadly, I have a 28cm from an old starboard 99...never used much, would be perfect to try, but it's a Tuttle, and the Kode is standard surfing fin mount. Probably end up $pringing for a new 26-28, but am looking around first..

switchfoot
11th October 2009, 07:01 AM
RadiantX,

I have been using the MFC K-ONE 24 and 27 with my 5.5 and 6.0's on the 86 Kode. I have to say the 24 is a dream! fast, when and if it slides out.....it pops back in with ease. I have the 27 there for my 6.0, though if i can i will start on the 24 before switching up.

my feeling has always been...board manufacturers make boards....fins manufacturers make fins. as obvious as this sounds as good as some stock fins are they are often the most under rated piece of gear when people start talking boards. your style of riding can literally make or break a fin thus a board. try MFC. i really think you will be bumping and jumping with ease and pleasure.

peace
switchfoot
:)

RadiantX
13th October 2009, 12:01 PM
Thanks switchfoot. Well, for the moment I now have the Drake CrossOver 26cm fin and am hoping to give that a run as soon as the conditions are suitable. I was also looking at the MFC freewave in a 28cm but was a little concerned it may be too big. If the CrossOver doesn't do the job I'll look into the MFC K-One. Cheers!

aa25
13th November 2009, 10:27 AM
I found similar issue with 25cm stock fin on Kode 86 (wood) - a bit slidey for freeriding (good in waves though). Anyway, just tried a MFC 28cm freewave fin (bit more freeride in shape). Fantastic improvement for more freeride blasting, chop hops and also looping. 28 is fairly big for this board but sits the board up higher in the water so earlier planing, blistering speed and really drivey feel for busting big airs and loops when blasting along. Loose out on freestyle and manoeuvrability as the big fin is hectic in slidey, turny moves, but if you push a bit harder I find the smooth kode carve is still there. I'll use the 25 if it's wavier freeriding or for lighter wavesailing.