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bubi
2nd January 2007, 06:08 PM
REMI

I read your fin suggestion (dedoichet custom) for the F161 is
< 15 knots R 19 S rake +8
&
>15 knots R13 M rake +8

What happens if I use
for light winds
<15 Knots R13 M rake +10
and for strong
Winds > 15 knots R13 H rake + 5??

Best regards

bubi

Remi
3rd January 2007, 06:47 PM
Hi Bubi,

This with wide board you need a fin a have a good flex (soft) in light wind to get the lift. Stiffer don not give you this important effect to drive over the water and accelerate.

R13m rake +10cm under 15 knots will not work really good, the board will never get the lift and will push water.

R13 H rake +5cm, you will loose in angle with that one.

So I recomand you the R19 soft -- rake+8cm under 15 knots and the 13 medium rake + 8 or + 6cm over 15 knots.

All the best

bubi
4th January 2007, 03:21 AM
thanks remi

bubi

bubi
7th January 2007, 05:24 AM
dear remi

today was the first day i tested the f 161
you have right about the soft fins... the first day was wind from 10 to 16 knots and i used the standard fin r 19 soft.

i found that this board has increadible speed when you are sailing downwind .

any comments from you with a fin R 13 deboichet custom soft rake 6??
i know the R19 is the best but who do you find this solution??

best regards

bubi


p.s the f161 its a great board...

Remi
7th January 2007, 09:38 AM
Hi Bubi,

The R13 soft rake + 6cm still a good fin, but need more power in the tip to get the lift more quickly. This fin was an amaising one on the F 159, but now with the F161 who is a lot more wide in the tail and the size limite at 70 cm, we was oblige to develope a new fin for the F 161.

The R17 soft rake + 8cm was a good base, good aceleration, but not enough power, so I develope in colaboration with Jean-Jacques something between the R13 and the R17 and the R19 born. The R19 is a R13 75cm cut at 70 cm and reshape the last 30 cm to have the perfect curve and flex.

All the best

bubi
7th January 2007, 03:53 PM
ok i understand what you mean in condititions under 15 knots

is it a good choice to use the R 13 soft rake 6 in conditions up to 15 knots?

best regards

bubi

Guest
14th January 2007, 06:54 PM
Will R13 soft FR6 also work for heavier sailors on the F159?
And for the SF 160 as well?

Remi
15th January 2007, 08:24 PM
Hi Guest,

Yes this fins work on this 2 boards, work beter particulary on the F 160 with rake + 8cm if you are heavy.

All the best

Guest
18th January 2007, 05:02 AM
hi remi,

there is significant different between deboichet r19 soft rake8+ and deboichet r19 soft-- rake8+? control, speed, lift? the board is f161!

thanks a lot for your help,
willy

bubi
18th January 2007, 08:00 AM
dear remi,
thanks a lot for your amswers

my last question for this racing bolide f161.
How does it works up to 18 knots with a R13 H RF + 5?

Best regards

bubi

Remi
18th January 2007, 08:22 AM
Hi Guest,

The soft -- give your more lift in light wind, so the board just flying over the water earlier than the soft one. No problems to control it, but I change for R 13 medium rake + 8 cm over 15/20 knots, depend of the water conditions.

All the best

Remi
18th January 2007, 08:25 AM
Hi Bubi,

The problems with Hard fins on this board, you don&#39;t get the lift easily, you push hard with nor really good results and your up wind and down wind angle is really not as good as the R19 soft-- rake + 8cm.

All the best

bubi
22nd January 2007, 07:11 PM
hi remi,

there is significant different between deboichet r19 soft rake8+ and deboichet r19 soft-- rake8+? control, speed, lift? the board is f161!

thanks a lot for your help,
willy

Remi
22nd January 2007, 08:37 PM
Hi Bubi,

The soft -- give your more lift in light wind, so the board just flying over the water earlier than the soft one. No problems to control it, but I change for R 13 medium rake + 8 cm over 15/20 knots, depend of the water conditions.

Guest
24th January 2007, 12:50 AM
Remi-
Have you tested nay Kashy fins?

bubi
2nd February 2007, 06:14 AM
DEAR REMI

WHICH IS THE BEST FOODSTRAPS AND MASTFOOD POSITION FOR THE F 161?

BEST REGARDS

BUBI

bubi
5th February 2007, 05:44 PM
DEAR REMI

WHICH IS THE BEST FOODSTRAPS AND MASTFOOD POSITION FOR THE F 161?

BEST REGARDS

BUBI

Remi
7th February 2007, 12:28 AM
Hi Bubi,

For me the ebst position straps are all of them in the back and outside.
For my Code Red R2 11m, I put my mast base 1 cm behind the middle of all the track mast.

All the best