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bubi
2nd January 2007, 05:08 PM
REMI
I read your fin suggestion (dedoichet custom) for the F161 is
< 15 knots R 19 S rake +8
&
>15 knots R13 M rake +8
What happens if I use
for light winds
<15 Knots R13 M rake +10
and for strong
Winds > 15 knots R13 H rake + 5??
Best regards
bubi
Remi
3rd January 2007, 05:47 PM
Hi Bubi,
This with wide board you need a fin a have a good flex (soft) in light wind to get the lift. Stiffer don not give you this important effect to drive over the water and accelerate.
R13m rake +10cm under 15 knots will not work really good, the board will never get the lift and will push water.
R13 H rake +5cm, you will loose in angle with that one.
So I recomand you the R19 soft -- rake+8cm under 15 knots and the 13 medium rake + 8 or + 6cm over 15 knots.
All the best
bubi
4th January 2007, 02:21 AM
thanks remi
bubi
bubi
7th January 2007, 04:24 AM
dear remi
today was the first day i tested the f 161
you have right about the soft fins... the first day was wind from 10 to 16 knots and i used the standard fin r 19 soft.
i found that this board has increadible speed when you are sailing downwind .
any comments from you with a fin R 13 deboichet custom soft rake 6??
i know the R19 is the best but who do you find this solution??
best regards
bubi
p.s the f161 its a great board...
Remi
7th January 2007, 08:38 AM
Hi Bubi,
The R13 soft rake + 6cm still a good fin, but need more power in the tip to get the lift more quickly. This fin was an amaising one on the F 159, but now with the F161 who is a lot more wide in the tail and the size limite at 70 cm, we was oblige to develope a new fin for the F 161.
The R17 soft rake + 8cm was a good base, good aceleration, but not enough power, so I develope in colaboration with Jean-Jacques something between the R13 and the R17 and the R19 born. The R19 is a R13 75cm cut at 70 cm and reshape the last 30 cm to have the perfect curve and flex.
All the best
bubi
7th January 2007, 02:53 PM
ok i understand what you mean in condititions under 15 knots
is it a good choice to use the R 13 soft rake 6 in conditions up to 15 knots?
best regards
bubi
Guest
14th January 2007, 05:54 PM
Will R13 soft FR6 also work for heavier sailors on the F159?
And for the SF 160 as well?
Remi
15th January 2007, 07:24 PM
Hi Guest,
Yes this fins work on this 2 boards, work beter particulary on the F 160 with rake + 8cm if you are heavy.
All the best
Guest
18th January 2007, 04:02 AM
hi remi,
there is significant different between deboichet r19 soft rake8+ and deboichet r19 soft-- rake8+? control, speed, lift? the board is f161!
thanks a lot for your help,
willy
bubi
18th January 2007, 07:00 AM
dear remi,
thanks a lot for your amswers
my last question for this racing bolide f161.
How does it works up to 18 knots with a R13 H RF + 5?
Best regards
bubi
Remi
18th January 2007, 07:22 AM
Hi Guest,
The soft -- give your more lift in light wind, so the board just flying over the water earlier than the soft one. No problems to control it, but I change for R 13 medium rake + 8 cm over 15/20 knots, depend of the water conditions.
All the best
Remi
18th January 2007, 07:25 AM
Hi Bubi,
The problems with Hard fins on this board, you don't get the lift easily, you push hard with nor really good results and your up wind and down wind angle is really not as good as the R19 soft-- rake + 8cm.
All the best
bubi
22nd January 2007, 06:11 PM
hi remi,
there is significant different between deboichet r19 soft rake8+ and deboichet r19 soft-- rake8+? control, speed, lift? the board is f161!
thanks a lot for your help,
willy
Remi
22nd January 2007, 07:37 PM
Hi Bubi,
The soft -- give your more lift in light wind, so the board just flying over the water earlier than the soft one. No problems to control it, but I change for R 13 medium rake + 8 cm over 15/20 knots, depend of the water conditions.
Guest
23rd January 2007, 11:50 PM
Remi-
Have you tested nay Kashy fins?
bubi
2nd February 2007, 05:14 AM
DEAR REMI
WHICH IS THE BEST FOODSTRAPS AND MASTFOOD POSITION FOR THE F 161?
BEST REGARDS
BUBI
bubi
5th February 2007, 04:44 PM
DEAR REMI
WHICH IS THE BEST FOODSTRAPS AND MASTFOOD POSITION FOR THE F 161?
BEST REGARDS
BUBI
Remi
6th February 2007, 11:28 PM
Hi Bubi,
For me the ebst position straps are all of them in the back and outside.
For my Code Red R2 11m, I put my mast base 1 cm behind the middle of all the track mast.
All the best
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