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Constantinos
22nd June 2010, 03:14 PM
Any news about the 2011 i-sonic series???

kvda
1st July 2010, 01:41 AM
over here something is said (http://www.windsurfing44.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2627)
"In 2011, Starboard will offer all new sizes in the iSonic range 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 117 and 117-wide"

mark h
1st July 2010, 07:34 AM
over here something is said (http://www.windsurfing44.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2627)
"In 2011, Starboard will offer all new sizes in the iSonic range 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 117 and 117-wide"


Thats good information kvda. Thats like a complete new range. I heard that the 2011 where going to be special, so maybe totally new range??? I just picked up a sponsorship deal with my local SB/North dealer and importer so cant wait get my grubby hands on these 2011 iSonics and speed specials:)

Its only a month or so away till official launch dates, I think SB team should drop a few hints on the 2011 iS :)

BelSkorpio
1st July 2010, 06:37 PM
It looks to me that SB is going to rename the Isonics corresponding to their REAL volumes, which is a good thing.

Deja Vu
1st July 2010, 08:47 PM
over here something is said (http://www.windsurfing44.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2627)
"In 2011, Starboard will offer all new sizes in the iSonic range 80, 87, 90, 97, 107, 117 and 117-wide"

Looks like my Isonic 87 is being revived! That's wonderful - so now I won't have to think about updating. No Isonic 133/131? Marketing, don't we love marketing.

Gerrit Jan
24th July 2010, 04:16 PM
When are the iSonic's 2011 on the website??????


GJ

Unregistered
26th July 2010, 04:48 PM
I don't know but test them already, prepare yourself to enter in a new level with many changes, just easy and fast :)

IRL-250
27th July 2010, 09:48 AM
Can't wait to see the new 2011 I Sonic range. I'm hopefully changing my I Sonic 144 so want to see whats being offered in that size:)

mark h
28th July 2010, 04:38 AM
Same here Alistair, 2008 iS144/iS111 going on ebay soon:) I think its next week when they are launched??

IRL-250
29th July 2010, 06:35 AM
There's a guy i know in the UK called Stephen Squirrell looking for a light wind slalom board so maybe contact him to see if he is interested in your 144.

He's on facebook here http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=1012660562&ref=ts

mark h
29th July 2010, 08:03 AM
Thanks for the heads-up:)

IRL-250
30th July 2010, 10:08 AM
No probs mate :):)

cholo
15th August 2010, 07:37 AM
from what I understand from Svein's words, the 2011 iSonics will not be revealed before December or so.

"For right now please enjoy looking at the board collection we have prepared for the Autumn/Winter season.
...
You will find out soon in our Spring/Summer catalog coming out just before new year."

kvda
21st August 2010, 12:22 AM
check for isonic 2011 over here! (http://www.windsurfing44.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=2627&start=10)

mark h
21st August 2010, 03:25 AM
Nice find kvda:)

JPP
21st August 2010, 07:39 AM
Thanks for sharing that with us...

Deja Vu
24th August 2010, 08:20 AM
Good Lord, the deck concaves on the new Isonics are incredibly radical. For the most part the boards seem a little longer too and the weights of the carbon boards are very light.

sergio k
25th August 2010, 12:39 AM
Good Lord, the deck concave on the new Isonics are incredibly radical. For the most part the boards seem a little longer too and the weights of the carbon boards are very light.
Looks like boards just going thru natural progressing, don't think concave decks so radical,
we had those on few boards >15 years back, and basic idea in recessing mast track
was resurrected by JP and Mike's Lab this year. In my custom boards I had this for last 10 years.
Judging by their return to full carbon layup, carbon is a good as it gets for now in board construction.
Interesting that they went with longer outline, I like it super short, that's why I loved I-133, but
a bit longer shape maybe appeals to larger audience, has more forgiving ride if not as responsive.

Deja Vu
26th August 2010, 02:13 AM
Many of my boards have recessed mast tracks - 2009 Is 111, 222, 150 and 2010 Is 131, but if you blow up the side shots of the 2011 Isonics you'll see that the entire deck takes a dramatic dip before the mast track. It is no wonder that Starboard advises the sailor to raise his/her boom height by as much as 4 cm.

Blow up (enlarge) the top left photo on the products isonic page and you'll see just how much of a recess there is right after the front foot straps.

mark h
9th September 2010, 02:15 AM
Just picked up my 2011 iSonic137 and iSonic107. Iv'e put a few pictures in my profile album if any body wants a peep:) The iS137 feels super light. I was sent a Wood iS107 and one of the last 2010 W58 by mistake, opted to keep them instead of sending back as it looks wind this weekend (sold my old iSonics a few days ago).

nonopr
9th September 2010, 03:12 AM
Just picked up my 2011 iSonic137 and iSonic107. Iv'e put a few pictures in my profile album if any body wants a peep:) The iS137 feels super light. I was sent a Wood iS107 and one of the last 2010 W58 by mistake, opted to keep them instead of sending back as it looks wind this weekend (sold my old iSonics a few days ago).

WHere can we see those pictures? Send a link.
Thanks

BelSkorpio
9th September 2010, 03:56 AM
Hi Mark H,

I must say that the gray WC IS137 on a real photo looks better than on the drawnings of the SB web site.

Anyway, it's the performance that counts and I'm pretty sure of that. :)

Have fun !

nonopr, you can find the link if you click on the user name of Mark H and choose "view public profile".
OR: http://www.star-board.com/forum/album.php?albumid=8

mark h
9th September 2010, 04:44 AM
WHere can we see those pictures? Send a link.
Thanks


Click on my name "mark h", then select "public profile", the on the right hand side of the page click on "albums". This will take to my aladines cave:)

mark h
9th September 2010, 04:50 AM
Hi Mark H,

I must say that the gray WC IS137 on a real photo looks better than on the drawnings of the SB web site.

Anyway, it's the performance that counts and I'm pretty sure of that. :)

Have fun !

nonopr, you can find the link if you click on the user name of Mark H and choose "view public profile".
OR: http://www.star-board.com/forum/album.php?albumid=8


Hi Bel
Iv'e always had a soft spot for the wood model's, but the carbon looks gorgeous in the flesh, the pictures dont do it justice. think I'm converted to carbon now:) Hopefully I'll get out on the iS137 after work tomorrow night.

Unregistered
9th September 2010, 02:10 PM
Hi Mark!

Sorry for offtopic...

I saw in your gallery a picture of some speed fins and I noticed you have ka speed 23 (symmetrical?) and a bunch of venoms...

How would you compare these 2 fins for speedsurfing? Which one do you prefer in which conditions?
How would you compare power between these two fins? What would be equivalent size venom to ka speed 23?

Thank you!

Cheers
CS

ChrisN
9th September 2010, 06:58 PM
Mark, is the iS137 on your profile pictures the WoodCarbon OR the Carbon version? Anyways looking forward to hear your test results compared to the 144 from last year.

Regards ChrisN

Erik Loots
9th September 2010, 08:58 PM
The new boards look nice Mark!!! I am curious about the speed you will do with the new weapons

mark h
12th September 2010, 04:20 AM
Hi Erik
Upload the first session on to GPSSS today, the iS137 is looking promising:)

Hi Chris
Its the carbon, feels super light both on and off the water.

mark h
12th September 2010, 05:24 AM
I know that a few people are thinking of upgrading their iS133/131/144 for the new iS137/127 and it's sometimes tough deciding if it's really worth changing boards. So here's a quick review of the iS137 Carbon compaired to my old 2008 iS144 wood:)

First time out on it today. Light 12 knot to 15 knot winds. 51cm Select RS7 fin, 9m F2008. Footstrap all in the front holes. Deck plate set in the middle (moved to back for last half of the session). Water flat to small/meduim harbour chop. 30.5 knot max speeds, 28 knots 500m, 29 knots average 5 x 10 sec. About 2:1 speed/wind ratio.

The carbon version feels very light both on and off the water c/w my old iS144. Carbon feels a lot more lively than the wood version. = Reduced weight is definetly a benefit.

At first glance, the Is137 look's a bit different c/w the iS144 (which I'd been looking at for the last 3 years). It looks longer, the rear rail section is just slightly sharper/harder and the carbon looks a real beauty, much better in flesh. The deck concave look's pretty rad as it pretty deep. The nose is a lot thin than previous models.
= Son d'une beauté

c/w the old iS144, the iS137 is longer in length, this improves upwind angle a bit, but mostly improves upwind speed. The extra length also improves early planing slightly, but this might also be due to it being carbon. The iS137 seemes to be easier to pump to maintain speed out of gybes.
= Extra length has improved upwind, pumping and early planing.

Downwind speed is were this board is at, its quick:) For today's conditions, I was able to match the same sort of gps speeds that I would have had on my old iS144. I say match (which is a good thing) because I had used the old Is144 for 3-years and had it pretty dialled, the iS137 was straight out of the box needs tuning for settings/stance/trim etc, so I am 100% certain that with a few more sessions, I will see this board travelling faster than my old iS144 (which was already quick).
= Improved down wind speed.

How's it feeling? The iS137 feels like it likes fast powerfull fins, not slippery fin's. I guess that fin selection is critical for this board.

The deck concave will significantly reduce the boom hight, so adjust accordingly. I'm 194cm, so this is a slight problem for me as I already have my boom at max height. Today I had to shorten my harness lines to compensate. I may have to put get the boom cut out altered on my 8m and 9m to get the most out of the iS137, small price to pay:)

The feeling is that the deck concave helps to get the sail draft nice and low to aid control, it also helps to "close the gap" between the foot of the sail and deck. This is perfect for newer slalom sails as most now have a slightly higher cut to avoid catching the foot of the sail in chop and catching on the rear footstrap. Today, I was using my old Warp F2008 9m which has an older style "low cut" and it did catch water and the rear footstrap a lot. I moved the mast track back to minumis this but at the expense of upwind speed. Next month I get a set of F2010, the new 9m will be perfect with the new deck concave.

At first, I thought the iS137 was a bit harder to sail through chop c/w the iS144, but after a while I realised this was just the extra feed back that carbon gives you. In fact, its possibly slightly better than the old model, you just have to "stay" sheeted in a go at max velocity to get that smooth ride. The iS144 could be sailed at "half" speed smoothly but again, my feeling is that this is just carbon versus wood feeling.

The iS137 sails much higher out of the water c/w the iS144, my feeling is that this due to 1: slightly harder rear rails, 2:lighter overall weight 3:thinner nose.

My feeling on volume displacement c/w the iS144 is, slightly less volume in the front half, slightly more volume in the rear half. Despite the lower volume in the front, the iS137 tack's nicely.

So here's my summary.
Yes, the old iS133/131/144 are still nice boards, easy, fast and fun. Great second hand/close-out deal buy's. But if you want the edge, grap the 2011 model:)

Am I pleased I changed to the iS137 carbon? Double definetly yes.

Sorry this is thrown together quickly, but I'm off out for few beers with the wife now:)

mark h
12th September 2010, 05:35 AM
More pictures in my profile for registered users, but for non reg user's here a peak:)

Erik Loots
13th September 2010, 03:52 PM
2:1 speed:wind ratio is quick!!! I have tried a 117 Wide (carbon), had about the same experience. When turning downwind there was a very loose moment which made the board accelerate quick. Really great ride.

mark h
18th September 2010, 09:36 PM
Hi Mark!

Sorry for offtopic...

I saw in your gallery a picture of some speed fins and I noticed you have ka speed 23 (symmetrical?) and a bunch of venoms...

How would you compare these 2 fins for speedsurfing? Which one do you prefer in which conditions?
How would you compare power between these two fins? What would be equivalent size venom to ka speed 23?

Thank you!

Cheers
CS

Hi
There not my fins, so cant comment on how they feel. Just saved the pictures for reference as I was going to get either a venom or a KA Assy. But Im waiting to hear the first reports on the new C3 sling shot first.
Im using Tectonic Falcons and a TM45

Chris Dimond Aus06
20th September 2010, 07:11 AM
I can comment on those fins.

The KA 23 symm is a great fin for speed sailing and even in a small (sub90lt) slalom board. It works well with sails from 7.0m down to 5.0m.

The Venoms are even better, but you need to sail a V24 or V26 in similar conditions.

I'd only go with an assy fin if you regularly sail a spot that works on one tack, otherwise I'd go with a symm to ensure greater use out of the fin.

mark h
20th September 2010, 07:39 AM
Chris, can you use the same size for size the assy c/w symm, or does the symm feel a bit smaller?

Chris Dimond Aus06
20th September 2010, 12:30 PM
Mark, the only assy fin I've had was a C3 Strike 22. I used this at Sandy Point and it had HUGE amounts of lift for its size. Based on this, I'd almost say you might get more lift from an assy than a symm of equal size.

I preferred the symm fin at Sandy though as it made the sail back up wind much easier which meant more runs off the wind.

mark h
20th September 2010, 05:50 PM
Cheers Chris, these dedicated speed fins cost on arm & leg, so its nice to get it right first time:) Think Iv'e got it down to the KA or new Sling Shot.

Nathan iSonic
21st October 2010, 02:15 AM
I have a question ( i'm sorry but my english is not so good):

I want to buy a iSonic Wood 2011 but i don't know which one, i have the 87 (2007) and a 111 (2009).
My weight is 92 kg and i want the sail this board with 8.9 (Ka Race) or a 8.5 m2 (Ka Koncept).

The sail conditions are choppy, flatwater and sometimes at sea.

The reason that i can't make a decision is because the 117 Wide is very close to my 111 and i think that the 137 (85 wide) feels big and hard to control when i have a overpowered sail.

I hope that i have give you enough information.

Remi
21st October 2010, 03:27 AM
Hi Nathan

Yes so you should go for the 127 at your weight

All the best

Nathan iSonic
21st October 2010, 04:06 AM
Thanks Remi.

Nathan iSonic
22nd October 2010, 01:15 AM
I orderd today the Isonic 127, i can not wait.

Thanks for the information.

Remi
22nd October 2010, 11:28 AM
Hi Nathan

When you have please come back to us your feedback and questions

All the best

mark h
23rd October 2010, 02:23 AM
Managed to get a couple of iS107 wood session in, first impression are great.

I came from a 2008 iS111 so I was looking for a few big improvements since three years had past by, I am not disappointed, the iS107 has been improved in all areas.

So far, I have only used it with a 9m and a 41cm fin. But even when weighed down with a 9m race sail and a 100kg ridder, this board is comfortable. My old iS111 always felt like it would have been better with an 8.5m.

The iS107 takes off about the same as the old iS111. Gybing is about the same. Upwind about the same. Downwind speed is faster for sure.

The iS107 feels easier to sail at full throttle in choppy waters c/w my old iS111, I could not figure out why as yet, deck concave must aid control I guess, but I think there are other factores working here. The iS107 wood is not too physical to sail, maybe this because wood is much easier than carbon? My 137 carbon is more physical to sail c/w iS107 wood.

I feel that the iS107 is slightly faster than the iS111. Managed 33 knots peak speeds with a 9m/41cm in 15k to 20k winds during my first couple of sessions, with more speed to come. My old iS111 has had peaks at over 35 knots, but that was with smaller 7m and 8m sails, I think the iS107 will go slightly quicker.

The iS107 rides higher than the old iS111. I also feel that the iS107 will take a slightly smaller fin if you want top-end speed.

iS107 pictures in my public profile album.

I think I will be keeping this board for a while, I love it:)

Nathan iSonic
23rd October 2010, 02:39 AM
@ Remi,

Yes i will.

mark h
23rd October 2010, 02:53 AM
Any one tried the US147 as yet or has pictures to upload?

ChrisN
24th October 2010, 03:20 AM
No but I have on my sights on the US147C; as soon as we finish the house I'll order it! If anyone beats me to it please post a review...