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ZedZdeD
5th July 2010, 12:25 AM
Hi,

I have two Phantom 320, one 2009, one 2010.

I realized recently that both were absorbing water by the same way : the holes made in the deck to fix the daggerboard. I tested that this afternoon, filled all holes on the deck with water. After a moment, the footstraps insert holes still contained water, but the daggerboard holes were all empty. Also, salt traces appeared around certain of them.

This quickly made my brand new 320 2010 completely unusable, as it reached 23 kilos. I put both boards to dry in my garage after un-mounting their daggerboards, and can just hope that their weight is going to come down ...

Please signal this critical issue to Cobra for future models. I will try to apply more power to the daggerboard screws to limit water absorption.

This is not normal, we should not encounter such an issue, please fix it.

Remi
5th July 2010, 06:07 PM
Hi ZedZdeD,

Let me know your serial number, thanks

All the best

ZedZdeD
5th July 2010, 09:07 PM
ST9PRH320a09020040
ST10PHR320S10030007

Remi
5th July 2010, 09:47 PM
Hi ZedZdeD,

Please weight your board without anything and let me know the weight, thanks (No foot-straps, No Dagger-Board and Side Plate, No Fin, No Track Mast)

Send me photos on Facebook of your problems, can't see how the board can get water from insert

All the best

ZedZdeD
9th July 2010, 03:33 AM
I let the two boards, deck upwards, the whole week in my garage on the roof of the trailer with board bags below

today I saw that there was a quantity of water below the 2010 on the boardbag at the middle of the board, it must have come out from the daggerboard well, I dont see exactly from where

no more water out of the 2009

I have now put the boards on the roof of the trailer deck below, wait and see
I will weight both boards this weekend

Sailboarder
23rd November 2010, 08:33 PM
Hello!

I wonder how the problem was resolved in the end, and what was the cause.

Thanks!

Yan

ZedZdeD
24th November 2010, 02:43 AM
Starboard kindly replaced the board
the origin of water absorption was not precisely identified
the new board has no problem and works like a charm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgZO_wjfBUs

Sailboarder
25th November 2010, 08:48 AM
Merci!

Crois-tu que je peux enseigner à mes enfants (légers, 25 à 40 kg) à plancher là-dessus? Je crois que le dessus est en EVA, je suis juste surpris qu'ils recommandent une dimension minimale de voile de 6 ou 6.5 m2. La techno 293 serait une alternative, sans l'EVA.

Remi
25th November 2010, 09:05 AM
Bonjour Sailboarder,

Cette planche à juste un tout petit peu Eva pour les pieds au près sans vent près de la dérive.

Pour apprendre oui ils peuvent avec de très petite voile, mais la forme du pond serra un peut technique pour apprendre, mais cela le fait.

Amicalement

tonymatta
25th November 2010, 09:43 PM
What was the weight of phantom 320 - 2009?
Mine weighs about 19kg with CB and foot straps. Is this what it should be?

Remi
26th November 2010, 10:13 AM
Hi Tonymatta,

The Phantom Race 320 2009 Average Weight (+ or - 6%) was 15.56 and the 2010 15.83 with 60 liters more. This weight is without all the accessories, Foot-Straps, Dagger Board, Fin & Mast Track, so your board looks ok

Have fun

All the best

ZedZdeD
27th November 2010, 05:17 AM
This board is great.

Accessible to any windsurfer, even beginners.
Performing, interesting and technical for any windsurfer, even most experienced.
Pleasant from the slightest wind to force 5-6, planning or not.
Versatile as it allows a more diversified navigation than a shortboard.
Advanced with a modern and innovative design.
Reasonably priced, and with a reasonably robust construction.
... and you even can use it as a SUP, and as a kayak with the Bic very comfortable seat

it is not just a raceboard, it is much more than that, a rediscovery of the characteristics which once made windsurf a large audience sport

I would so much wish to see Starboard :
- market this board with this broader approach
- dedicate some promotion efforts to it, so far the only available video is mine, it is not normal
- sell a one design rig to fit with it, so beautiful and well thought you could not resist buying it
- sell the same gear without substantial modification for several years

and invite seasoned windsurfers to try this as a complement to their quiver of short boards
I did that and felt I was rediscovering the pleasure of navigation

otherwise we will have less and less windsurfers, sailing always more elitist gear, and the sport will not survive this very long

note : it would be even better to coordinate such approach with other windsurf brands, which would sell the same gear but with their colors, and together create a critical mass for success.

Sailboarder
29th November 2010, 08:57 AM
As far as marketing goes, you are pretty right. Even the product description on the web site looks like an aftertought. It is surprising...

I assume the Kona One Design fits the bill of a more popular board, with an increasing fleet. Starboard is pushing Formula, which is fine too. It's probalby better for the sport if Starboard lets Kona build it's class, instead of pushing another competing one.

For me and the family, I will eventually choose between BIC 293, Kona One, Fanatic Viper or RRD Longrider. I hope I'll find some to try, everything with a dagger board seems to be considered a beginner board around here.