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SilverSurfer
25th August 2010, 07:34 PM
Hi

I'll buy an 8.6 Reflex, and I'm thinking to get the iS 117 wide.
My weigh is 79-83 kg, and my other board is the iS 111 2010. Other sail sizes 6.8 and 7.8.

Is this board the best choice?
Which range of wind will cover the combination of 8.6 and this board?
Which size of fins (1 for sail) are recommended for the 8.6 and the 7.8 sails?

Thanks and Good Wind

nonopr
26th August 2010, 12:27 AM
That will be the best conbination for that sail.
Great choice.

Ken
26th August 2010, 02:53 AM
Why not go up to the 127? The 111 and 117 are too close together unless you are selling the 111 and buying the 117 as a replacement.

The 111 will carry the 8.6 Reflex just fine, but will be a little better with the 127. Eventually, you can get a 9.2 for lighter winds.

For fins, something around 44cm for the 8.6 and 42cm for the 7.8. If you are racing downwind slalom, then maybe 2cm less.

SilverSurfer
26th August 2010, 03:08 PM
Thanks a lot Ken

Many people told me about the combination 8.6-iSonic 111 as "possible" but less than ideal to get all the sail performance. Just in my place the light wind is reached and thought that 80cm wide should be the best combination for the 8.6 rig.

Thought in 117wide because could be the best combo with this rig, and I think I will not get anything bigger in the near future.

Anyway, what could be the wind range with 8.6 and the two commented boards (117Wide-127) ?.

Your tips are greatly appreciated, please offer me more about your knowledge.

Good wind

Meindert
26th August 2010, 04:16 PM
I posted pretty much the same question:

http://www.star-board.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9447

Maybe this helps a bit! Allthough I am also curious as to the wind range of the 117W and 127 with 8.6 sail!

Remi
26th August 2010, 04:43 PM
Hi SilverSurfer,

The combination of the iSonic 117W and the Severne Reflex 8.6 will be absolutely perfect with a Deboichet R16 46 for racers of 75/85. 127 is the perfect one for racers more heavy 85/95 and 137 95 and more but with Sails 9.2/9.7 and Deboichet R16 50/52.

This board will be perfect for light winds race in the PWA format.

In case you want to change your iSonic 111 the great choice for you will be the 97 that you will use mostly with the 6.8.

iSonic 117W : 7.8/8.6
iSonic 97 : 6.8/7.8

If you don't change the different of the board is enough between the 68cm wide 111 and 80.5cm wide for the 117 Wide.

Hope this help.

All the best

SilverSurfer
26th August 2010, 06:32 PM
Thanks a lot for all the responses

Remi, your knowledge (always) is priceless for me.

Good wind

Ken
27th August 2010, 12:05 AM
SilverSurfer,

I don't know that I can add much more to the issue unless you have another question.

Regarding the iS 111 and an 8.6 sail, I have a Maui Sails TR3 8.4 with an HPL carbon formula boom (very heavy). The whole rig is very heavy and not my favorite. I went out on this two days ago in building, but variable winds as a front came through, It was fine for a short time until the wind hit 18 knots, then it was a struggle for me. In the holes (off plane), the rig is not great at slogging. I weigh 78kg. I am also 65 years old, so I have a little more difficulty hanging on to big rigs in strong winds. Bigger stronger guys will do fine with an 8.4-6 on the iS111. When the winds are steady, I do fine with my 8.4, but in the holes and gusts, it's not fun.

SilverSurfer
27th August 2010, 04:23 AM
My friends told me just the same about the combo of iSonic111 and 8.6, the board only works fine in steady winds, downwind...but the in light wind range has some problems.

Good wind

nonopr
27th August 2010, 08:10 AM
The magical sail size for the 111 is a 7.6m sail and a 42cm fin.

SilverSurfer
27th August 2010, 03:50 PM
I'm in love with the board.
The range 14-25 knots is fantastic

Good wind

fin66
9th October 2010, 03:07 AM
Hi
Going to change 131 to 117wide.
Would reflex 8.6 or the new 9.2 be the optimal sail for the board. ( every board has one sail size that is perfect :)

Remi
9th October 2010, 06:06 AM
Hi Fin66,

The Reflex 8.6 is simply the best sail for this board, enjoy it.

All the best

pfaffi
9th October 2010, 01:55 PM
Hi SS!
Since two weeks I have my 117W next to my 111.
The 117W planes a lot earlier than the 111 with Reflex 8.6 and likes jibes and downwind.
It carries my weight easily and I can draw my 8.6
I use a S1 in 45.5cm and in 43.5cm, the 47.5cm is to big.
http://www.pfaffi.at/pfaffi_fins/Pics/Seiten/iS117_Wide.html
Of course in lighter winds and reaching the 131 is a bit faster in my weight class. Maybe not in yours.
BR
pfaffi

G
6th November 2010, 04:23 PM
hallo Remi and Pfaffi (and all the people as well),
I'm gonna racing my 2011 slalom main event in Garda lake.
Currently own 2010 IS 131 and 111 which basically is the most used kit in my last 4 season.As I think the boards are still super competitive I was thinking to hold on with them (hoping construction doesn't sucks!) AND add another board in between.
In fact if I'm sure on the fresh water the WC IS 111 is a rocket with the 8,6 (on demand) I'm not sure that it's a usefull combo on the lake.
As well as from my experience the 131 (or 127) can be a nightmare down to Ponale chop if it really blows and I strongly believe a narrower and thinnier board should be easier and faster.
Ask for your opinion and what I should select (117w or 117) in order to register only 2 board for the Event.
Plus I'd like to hear from Pfaffi if he tested the 117w on the lake and what was his feeling.

thx

Lasher
6th November 2010, 07:07 PM
G
Go for 117w and I bet you will never miss again your 111 and 131 once you start using it.
I tested 117w upto 30 kts,no problem.I liked it even better than IS 101 at 30 kts.