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grace
20th September 2010, 03:54 PM
I left my board under the sun for a couple of days and it's swollen ¿what may happen now? ¿have I spoil it? ¿will it break?
Thank you for the replies:eek:

Farlo
20th September 2010, 05:51 PM
Hello Grace, I guess you let the vent closed as well. The swelling indicates that the skin separated from the foam to some extend. It might be possible to fill-in some resin depending how big is the damage. What kind of board/technology is it?

grace
20th September 2010, 06:04 PM
It's a Formula from 2001, thank you for replying,

grace
20th September 2010, 06:17 PM
I forgot to say its D-Ram technology, not the wood one

Farlo
21st September 2010, 05:02 PM
How big is the swelling? Is it across the whole deck or just around vent/mast track?

grace
21st September 2010, 08:52 PM
Well, I don't really know, I have noticed that it has swollen because it's a bit difficult to put the fin like if the slot had shrunk, the look of the board it's the same, it's quite a big board so
I can't really see the difference but the fin box is definitely smaller.
Thank you for your help, I am really upset at what I have done, I love that board and I don't know if I will be able to find another one. Now I don't know if I can use it as normal or if its going to split any time.

Farlo
21st September 2010, 10:47 PM
Well I'm not sure the finbox has to do with that. If you let the board under the sun with vent open there should be no damage. Otherwise you may notice some areas where the skin is loose. Can you bring it to a shop before sailing again?

grace
22nd September 2010, 12:51 AM
No, I did't take the vent off, that's why I am worried, I have asked in other forums and everybody says that the board is dead. I have also sent an email to the starboard team but they have not reply yet, and don't know if they will.
Thank you Farlo

Roger
22nd September 2010, 11:11 AM
Hi Grace,
Have you opened the vent at all?
How warm was the temperature when you left it in the sun?
If it delaminated due to internal pressure, you would see fairly large areas that are curved/bubbled (blown up
away from the core foam) relative to the surrounding areas of the board.
The fin box is a very thick carbon fiber reinforced part, that is set into the board and bonded to the foam core and to both the upper and lower skins of the board.
It's very doubtful that you could build up enough pressure to collapse the fin box, even if there was
enough internal pressure to delam the skin from the core foam.
If the temperature was not more than say 85 deg. F ( 29.4 deg. C) there is very little likelyhood that you
delaminated the skin from the core.
Are you sure that your fin fit nicely before this incident.
Try a bar of soap (bath soap) rubbed all over the fin head (the part that goes in the fin box in your board)
and it may slide in much more easily.
Normally, you have to leave your board locked inside a closed vehicle where the temps go well above 120 deg. F ( 49 deg. C) to get a modern sandwich board to delaminate.
Hope this helps,
Roger

grace
23rd September 2010, 02:40 AM
Hi Roger,

When I left it under the sun I didn't open the vent, I guess that as cannot know what's going on inside the board I will have to wait and see what happens, it's a second hand board and don't know what the previous owner did with it, it may have had some water inside, it may be half rotten...don't know, I am looking for the same board just in case this one breaks, It's a great board for me because it goes well with small sails and it's not as difficult to carry as the new Formula boards (I am 5'2) that are made for really big sails.. I have tried putting the fin in the finbox with some soap and it's slightly easier than before.
Thank you for your help, I really appreciate your replies.

Roger
23rd September 2010, 07:49 AM
Hi Grace,
It's possible for you to use the vent, and ambient (outside) temperatures to ensure that the inside foam
core of your board is dry.
Here's how:
At the end of the day, close the vent plug and let the board cool off as the outside temperature cools off.
In the morning, before the temps rise (say before 9 am) open the vent.
In fact, remove the vent plug entirely.
Make a "wick" from some paper towel (twist it so it can be pushed all the way down to the core foam
at the bottom of the vent plug hole (the tan/yellowish stuff you see at the bottom of the vent plug
hole is the core foam.
Let the board sit in the sun with the vent plug out, and the wick in place.
The wick will pull any moisture that collects near the vent out of your board.
Do this several times, being sure to remove the wick and install the vent plug before the temperature
goes down in the evening.
In the morning, you should hear a little "hiss" as the warmer outside air gets pulled into the core to equalize the internal pressure with the outside pressure (atmospheric ambient pressure).
If you do not see any wetness on the wick at all, you are done as there is not moisture inside your
board.
If you board did indeed "delaminate" you would see bubbled areas on the bottom (normally) that
are soft to the touch. If you push on them, they will give as there is nothing but air between the skin
laminates of the board and the core foam.
If your board feels solid all over, then you do not have a problem.
Hope this helps,
Roger

grace
25th September 2010, 02:13 AM
Hi Roger, I will do as you advice in the next few days, I will let you know how I am getting on
thank you
Grace