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1st June 2007 07:48 PM
Roger
RE: NEED INPUT FROM INSTRUCTORS, TEAM RIDERS, STARBOARD TEAM, TESTERS...

Hi Guest,
Here's my take on this.
I don't have any '07 Starts as I do not like the wheel on the back, so I have a Rio M.
It works fine for beginners up to about 175 lbs. For heavier sailors I would recommend the Rio L.
The Phantom is great, and would be my suggestion as the "follow on" board to the Rio.
The Apllo requires such large, heavy rigs that I would not think it a good choice for a school rental operation.
If the winds are 8-10 knots min. maybe have just one and a 10.0 m2 rig for people to try, but it's not an entry level board by any stretch of the imagination.
The Serenity would be in the same category as the Apollo, to advanced, but again having a couple of them for progressing sailors would keep interest going when there not enough wind for anything else.
I don't have (also have not sailed) any of the Hybrids, so I cannot really comment on them, but they seem too advanced for sailors at the entry to intermediate level. They are race boards, and unless you plan to hold races, they really aren't applicable to a school.
Hope this helps,
1st June 2007 10:20 AM
Guest
RE: NEED INPUT FROM INSTRUCTORS, TEAM RIDERS, STARBOARD TEAM, TESTERS...

Hey, I have the same doubt too, and I guess the one that have tried all them is Roger. Hope he reads this.
31st May 2007 09:28 AM
Guest
RE: NEED INPUT FROM INSTRUCTORS, TEAM RIDERS, STARBOARD TEAM, TESTERS...

Well, I'm not with the starboard team, but I am a windsurfing instructor, so I have some knowledge of what people like.

Short wide boards like the START are the best for learning, but the first board a person buys should be more enjoyable to sail in non-planing mode. That means it must be relatively long and narrow, and have a large daggerboard. It also should have inboard footstrap options for an easy transition to planing when the wind is strong enough.

So the best boards that starboard offers are definitely the Phantoms.
31st May 2007 07:51 AM
TG
RE: NEED INPUT FROM INSTRUCTORS, TEAM RIDERS, STARBOARD TEAM, TESTERS...

Do you ever get more than 9-10, or is that very very rare?
30th May 2007 10:51 AM
Guest
NEED INPUT FROM INSTRUCTORS, TEAM RIDERS, STARBOARD TEAM, TESTERS...

Hi,
I want to develop two windsurfing schools in two places of light wind.
Say, most of the time wind is about 5-8 nudos and in the peak of the day it comes to 10 knots (some days only) for about an hour.

Yes, I am an advanced Formula racer and can plane in 9-10 knots with my 11.0, but I guess most people wont do it. I have a friend with intermediate level in Formula and he gets tired of pumping with his 11.0 to be planning just in the gusts.

So, I will have there an school with Start boards and sails. Then people learn....what to promote there:

Phantom?
Hybrids?
Serenity?
Apollo?

Cons and pros Apollo
Apollo can be really good choice, but to go with the most expensive board in the line for begginers and intermediate level could kill the sport and the roots. By the other side...its fast and looks cool in light wind.

Cons and pros Hybrids
Are they too much race oriented? maybe too complicated boards or too much race oriented for a place were no windsurfers exist...any way...they may plane earlier than the Phantoms due to the width? Allow bigger sails too...

Cons and pros Phantoms
As no racing will take place yet in this places maybe Phantom 300 or Phantom 320 can be the choice. They look, at least the 320 suitable for intermediate sailors, allow a 9.5 sail, yet enough for recreative sailing. But...my cons is that I have not tested it and I guess at their weight they will need lots of wind to get planning so people in those 10-12 knots wont be planning so maybe they wont discover the exciting part of the sport. Would it be fun to sail 6 knots with it by the other side...enough fun to convince someone to continue windsurfing.

Cons and pros serenity
This concept really likes me a lot, fast in almost no wind. I guess this board covers what all the other ones cannot do. But...would it be unstable for intermediate sailors...also, difficult to carry and scary to store? The performance really good, but i am a bit afraid that intermediate sailors suffer to uphaul the sail and avoid catapults.


Please, tell me from your experience what do choose as a strategy for this place!!!

Any instructor, tester, professional or school owner can give some input here and maybe this can help all to decide what to do in those light wind "new spots".

Thanks
Ricardo

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