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17th March 2008 04:36 PM
pierrec45
Too difficult

> And one more thing, if its not easy, most kids are too lazy to take
> it up and give it a shot. They get bored.

Interesting point of view from a 17yo, and he's right with the above. I've seen many youngsters give it up after less than an hour - "too difficult", "don't like it anymore". The Playstation generation, must be easy and quick.

Ironic: on the old, unstable, 80s boards that made everything way more difficult, everyone could learn, almost easily !!

I also agree with the difficulties he mentions - getting there, no car, etc. When I teach newbies, I personally concentrate on the 20-25yo. But they too are part of the "too difficult" generation.
17th March 2008 10:31 AM
Unregistered
check out this thread on old geezers!

pretty hilarious....and i'm one of 'em!!

http://forums.iwindsurf.com/viewtopic.php?t=12819
17th March 2008 10:23 AM
windsurferdagg I would say the main reason why younger people are not getting into it is because it doesn't seem as flashy as other sports. Jibing is a huge milestone and can be very difficult, but to people outside windsurfing, its just turning around.

Also, I really started to get into windsurfing when I was 17. Before that, I could not drive myself to the beach, and my parents were too busy to drive me. Luckily I have good parents, who helped me buy my first gear. But windsurfing isn't like the other sports. Soccer, hockey, baseball, all these sports the parents can really get involved. It is like babysitting. The typical parent is too busy with work, so the kid cannot go windsurfing. It also does cost more, so a young kid has no hope to start unless his/her parents buy gear.

I think the biggest reason though is the fact that its a lifestyle. I am the only person in my school who windsurfs. Out of over 1000 kids, I am the only one who gets excited when the wind picks up, the only one who runs home, stuffs the car with gear and heads to the beach. Everyone has the perception that windsurfing is full of old guys, pink helmets, duck tape and huge boards with triangle sails. They don't know what windsurfing has become, and therefore have no interest. It is really not something you can plan, at least not here in ottawa, canada, so it takes the extra effort. You either love it or you don't.

And one more thing, if its not easy, most kids are too lazy to take it up and give it a shot. They get bored. I see why people have gone to kiting. I tried it on snow this winter, to see how easy it is... and its so rewarding so fast. 3rd time out I was pulling grabs and one handed jumps..... fast learning curve = more people doing it

My 2 cents,

Thomas
17th March 2008 08:42 AM
Unregistered
stoked aussies!!

good to see the aussie blokes are hard at it and in numbers !!
look at the aussies when they had the olympics they cleaned house,
a hardcore bunch keep up the stoke people!!

Shredulato
17th March 2008 07:19 AM
Unregistered Hey you anti and ex-windsurfers don't you have a life to go and live, why do you bother to post on a windsurfing forum if you are finished with it? Maybe you don';t have lives and just wanna cause trouble?
17th March 2008 07:02 AM
Unregistered Those of you that rejoice in the perceived demise of windsurfing must have very limited and boring lives.

You sound like americans?

Well here in Australia, and remember before you flame an aussie... we are one of your staunchest alies, we actually go to war with you, Windsurfing is growing again, many more numbers on the beach than previous years.

3 years ago, only 2 to 3 windsurfers regularly windsurfed our local beach, now it is beteween 10 and 20 on a given day. Haven spoken to all, about 7 guys have returned to the sport after many years retired, stating got sick of seeing us having so much fun out there, and were motivated to start again. About 4 or 5 have shifted beaches because ours is better than theirs. And about 4 or 5 are newbies.

Apparently this is happening all over australia, as is discussed in australian windsurfing forums. So certainly not a dying sport in Australia!!!!!!!!
17th March 2008 06:36 AM
Joe666
Good point, Scott333

I'm with ya, having tortured myself in those exact "fickle" winds!

I don't even know if windsurfing qualifies as a "fringe" sport now, since Clay Feeter changed the name of his formerly "Windsurf Journal" to "Standup Surf & Sail Journal." Windsurf isn't even in the title anymore. Very sad.

Soon, windsurfing will be a relic of the past. 90 year old geezers talkin bout the good ol days...
17th March 2008 06:08 AM
Scott333 Here's my two cents. I recently quit after windsurfing for about a year. I learned when I lived on Maui and moved to Oahu for school. I used to go on Maui 3+ times a week and I learned alot, had LOTS of fun. I got some good equipment cheap from Euros that were here for the summer and sold it when they left.

But when I moved to Oahu it was different. The spots here outside of Kailua are few and harder. Like Diamond head. Gusty, reefy long walk, bit too advanced for me. And the wind is not the same at all. I went to Kailua some in the beginning and took out my 90 liter and it was gusty and not good, and I was told(and experienced) my equipment was Maui equipment, not big enoug for Oahu. My boom only held up to like 5.8. Mast too. Had no bigger sails. So Instead of buying new(used) equipment I sold what I had and quit. The surf is so good here I was less inclined to WS and I got a sail boat, so I can still sail.

So my point is, I lived in the best WS place there is, maui, and I thought Oahu was up there too, and it probably is, so if I quit living here, I can't imagine people oding this sport in any but the best places in any significant numbers. It's hard, expensive, fickle, lessons are expensive...
13th March 2008 11:43 AM
interested
how the media sees us

Is this how the media see windsurfing?

from "the fall of the house of Bush" by Craig Unger
Quote" It did not help that a photograph of Kerry appeared in the national media in late August showing him in an expensive, tightfitting wetsuit and windsurfing, an image that seemed both ill-advised in that it both showed him at leisure and pursuing a FLAKY, NON MAINSTREAM diversion" - capitaised by me.

When refering to US presidentail candidate John Kerry in the last run for election. Kerry windsurfs and kitesurfs.

On another point - if everyone on the forums complains about the cost of windsurfing gear, why do the brands keep coming out with new lightweght boards and increase the cost by $600 over the standard board? Do these boards sell in any numbers? Do the ones complaining still buy them? Do we just whinge as we hand over the money or do stop buying?
9th March 2008 08:17 PM
Unregistered Interestingly, where I live in eastern Aus, Windsurfing is looking the best it has looked in the last 8 years. 2001 to 2003 were probably windsurfings lowest point, but since then there has ever slowly been an increase in interest, with more younger people getting involved, and the retailers are doing much better
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