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6th February 2007 01:35 AM
o2bnme
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

That's great! Congrats!! So, it is sitting on your bed for the winter? That means you are sleeping on the couch? ;-)

The farther back and to the outside edge of the board, the more speed oriented. This sort of setting will also require more rider input. Typically, you can get more power driven to the fin if you put the straps on the outside setting.

The farther forward and inbound, the more friendly the ride but less efficient the board... that's how it was described to me anyway. I've never had the straps set inward or forward.

Don't forget you've already tested the board. Recall the settings you started out with. Then, when Spring comes around, try slight variations from that point and see if you can feel the difference... if not, vary the positions more from that familiar point.

When moving footstraps, Roger Jackson has a good suggestion... don't use a powerdrill... you could overtorque the holes. Also, he mentions rubbing the screws with a bar of soap before putting them in the holes. Do a search -- you might find his exact words.
5th February 2007 03:24 PM
Guest
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

The board has just arrived and sits silently on my bed ;-) I'm only waiting for the Spring to come now.

Quick question - what strap and mast position would you receommed for a beginner (please be specific if possible, thanks).

Again, many thanks for all your help.

-marek
4th February 2007 08:08 AM
o2bnme
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

Well said Steve. I like both kinds of windsurfing. I just like having opportunities to get on the water.

Sure, if I want to feel the exhilaration of high winds and the wind isn't blowing I won't be happy out there. But usually I'm more than willing to go out and relax on a light wind day.
4th February 2007 05:44 AM
steveC
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

While personally I would advocate the planing side of things based on my focus and relative opportunities in the sport, I wouldn't be so hasty to not recognize the realities of other windsurfing interests overall. So many folks like the spirit of windsurfing, but don't always have the conditions that many of us like to consider as our minimums. The beauty of today's market offerings is that everybody has an avenue to leverage off of. Really, the driving idea is to improve participation and interest overall, especially in the seeds and opportunity that family participitation might provide in less optimum conditions (the classic summer vacation). Varied market concepts accomplish this result so well these days with different sized board concepts, whether you're a sailor looking to take advantage of real light winds, or as more heavyweight sailor needing a slighty different strategy that really works.

In reality, I wouldn't be so quick to blowoff another folk's opportunities. It must be remembered that fun is truly relative. The bar doesn't have to be too high to creat interest and fun. Isn't that what it's about?
3rd February 2007 09:27 PM
Guest
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

Marek,

Get the F-type and a 9.0 sail. You will learn to handle it very quickly. If the conditions are below 9 knots, it is better to drink a beer than waste your time in non-planing conditions.

Windsurfing = planing.

Many companies try to increase their profits creating customer demand and selling boards for non-planing conditions, thus trying to increase the number of boards one shoud buy. Don't accept this and don't waste your money.

Mike
31st January 2007 11:31 PM
steveC
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

Hi marek,

For many years I was quite dedicated to cambered sails, but I find that I now actually prefer no cams. I like the ease of rigging, they're much friendlier to jibe, and not as mast specific. Also, they fare better in a surf environment. As 02bnme so rightly pointed out, modern no cams are very stable and pretty rangy overall. That wasn't always the case, but sail design has come a long way. For someone getting a start in the sport, no cam sails are really the best choice. Keeping things simple and avoiding the rigging and tuning subtleties in cambered sails makes a lot of sense.

However, there is a path to follow where you can have cams or no cams in your sail. Bill Hansen of Hansen Sails offers a sail line, the FreeRace HCL, that is designed to be used with or without cams. You can go with 0, 1, 2 or 3 cams. Really, the best of all worlds. For more information on these sails, check out the following website.

http://www.calcupevents.com/Stores/Hansen/Hansen_Store.shtml

31st January 2007 11:23 PM
Guest
RE: gaastra not north

OOOOPS the sails i saw were gaastraa no cams, my bad , i dont know the type.
Other then that they seemed very underpowered and i wasnt too impressed.
As to draft stability, well judging by the tension of the luff sleeve on the mast yes, probably very stable but low wind power as much as a flat board....

Shredulato
31st January 2007 10:43 PM
o2bnme
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

While I have a 9.8 V8 which has cams, my next sail is an 8.0 Retro. I replaced my 7.7 V8 with the Retro. I don't really notice a difference in stability or range between the 7.7 V8 and the 8.0 Retro. I was surprised at this, but pleased, of course.

Will I go and replace my 9.8 V8 with a 9.5 or 10 Retro? I'll definitely try it out, as I'm interested in seeing how it performs. But I'll wait until the 9.8 has a few more years on it.
31st January 2007 10:04 PM
Guest
RE: big sails wide boards

the boards a good choice, you cant beat the wide boards for planing,
the sail, i dont think is great choice , I do not own any newer big no cams ( a naish 6.0 only ),
they just dont have the power ive seen the luff sleeves ona few norths no cams, I was not impressed.
the luff sleeves were cut tight and narrow and needed alot of power to get them to form a good foil IMHO.
You need to have a cammed sail for draft/ depth/camber and ....power to use in light airs.
I am 195 lbs and have an old starboard 155, now its not that wide, in fact pretty narrow by today standards.
With it my sail of choice a Naishs Alana 2 cam!........... not the racy'ist of sails but a deep , deep, draft, set that way in lighter airs, top end is very limited but its got power in the low end to pop the board onto a plane.....
in even lower winds i have a prototype 9.5 ( dont knwo the brand its got a kangagroo sticker on it , alot more power but alot less comfortable /controlable B)
shredulato out ...
31st January 2007 12:34 AM
o2bnme
RE: Is Starboard F-type good for me?

Report back how things are going after you get a few sessions on the F-Type. I'm curious what you'll find the planing threshold is for the 7.5. I was surprised how light the wind was when I got my 8.0 planing on my F-Type 148. It is a good board for that. Also, don't forget to pay attention to what fin you get. All you might need is a larger fin ($100~) instead of a slightly larger sail ($500~).
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