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31st March 2008 12:50 AM
steveC Hi davide,

If I was in your shoes, I wouldn't go any bigger than the Carve 101 or Futura 101, especially since your primary focus is your 6.5 sail. For the range you're considering, I use a 2004 ML 8'3" Freeride that is 24" (61cm) wide and about 100 liters. It works beautifully with my 7.1 Hansen Freeride sail. Given the fact that I'm the same weight as you, I think you'll find the same kind of synergy with the 101 size, as it offers ample float in case the wind falls off and you need to slog in.

If pressed to choose between the Carve or the Futura, I would recommend the Futura, as it offers the blend from the best of the Carve and S-Type ranges. If you're going to look to 5 years of use, I think you would be happier in the long run with the latest and greatest. I know I would.
30th March 2008 03:56 PM
davide
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Originally Posted by James View Post
The futura 101 looks super badass, and there's no question it could hold the 7.3 nicely. Also, if you got it you would have board widths in 10 cm increments; 75, 65, 55, which would be cool. I guess it comes down to $$.
Well ... I am not so sure, a bit more of "geometric" width spread might be better 75 - 62 - 55. who knows

But besides is hard to compare a Futura 101 (that has the dimensions of a Carve 111) to a Carve 101 (that has the dimensions of a Futura 93).

The futura are thinner but my intuition is that what really matters at speed are dimensions (and rails and rocker, but those are fairly similar) not volume and it is hard to see how a futura 101 can be as good in chop (for example) as a carve 101 ... that is the question. Sailsize wise, yes the futura will carry more sail when powered up and will plane earlier ..
30th March 2008 03:38 PM
Screamer James
I'm not sure having boards in 10cm increments is that cool. It can work, but it depends on board size and what conditions you want covered. It can create a bit of a gap between 65/101lit and 54/74lit.
I use a 75 wide slalom with a 7.3 and then jump down to 59 wide Kombat (with a 6.0). The overlap point is around 18 knots (solid) to 21+(holey). It was my choice to minimize quiver and it works, but sometimes I wish for a 100 lit board for 6-7m sail (I'm 86kg/190lbs).
I guess we all search for a perfect quiver, and it never ends ;-)
30th March 2008 11:43 AM
James The futura 101 looks super badass, and there's no question it could hold the 7.3 nicely. Also, if you got it you would have board widths in 10 cm increments; 75, 65, 55, which would be cool. I guess it comes down to $$.
30th March 2008 05:32 AM
davide
Carve 101 vs Futura 101

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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I've ridden the 101 and 111 back to back and the difference a couple of cms less width makes in settling the board through chop is shocking.
Ok ... now comes the $1,000,000 unsolvable question: Carve 101 vs Futura 101? The Futura has basically the outline of the Carve 111 but ...
30th March 2008 03:00 AM
Unregistered I've ridden the 101 and 111 back to back and the difference a couple of cms less width makes in settling the board through chop is shocking.
30th March 2008 02:04 AM
James I agree with PG.

I weigh the same as you and used to sail a 2001 Carve 99 (60 cm wide). The only time it was hard to uphaul and shlog was when the wind died but the chop / waves were still big. It was definitely comfortable with a 6.6. I sometimes rode it with a 7.5 but that wasn't ideal. I actually used a 40 cm fin on it sometimes, which worked ok with the outboard footstrap positions. I think you could be reasonably comfortable on the 101 with a 38 cm fin and the 7.3. Of course the most fun way to ride the board was with inboard straps in the back for jumping and a moderately sized fin in the low 30s cm range.

-James
29th March 2008 09:55 PM
davide thanks for the feedback, that's about what I was thinking myself. The 7.3 should work at least in non-overpowered conditions and maybe with a 36-38 fin. The carve is going to inherit my tectonics and it will be very happy with those ...
29th March 2008 06:02 PM
PG
PG

I think that relative to your weight the C101 is a much better baord than the C111 (that is quite big). You should be able to uphaul it easily... And shloggingwise the 101 is pretty big.
The only reason to go with the C111 is to accomodate for the 7.3 that may be overwhelming for the 101 (but it may just work at your weight). But I believe that the 7.3 optimization would come at a high price (making the C111 worse in every other aspect).
29th March 2008 02:26 AM
davide
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Originally Posted by steveC View Post
Hi davide,

Just curious about your quiver. Do you carry around all your boards with you when you go to the beach? Quite frankly, I've got a 6 board quiver in my van right now and I'm kind of maxed out.

Also, are you planning on retiring the old Kinetic once you buy your Carve?
Yep, the kinetic will be retired (it is already for sale on iwindsurf.com).
This year was a big year of new boards, I had some fairly old designs floating around. Now I am done for a good 5yrs!

What I carry around is at most 3/4 boards: (ML+) Carve+CA (+Acid or Chango) depending on the day ... not too bad and it overs any condition I might run into: the limit is my sailing ability!
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