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14th June 2008 02:53 PM
Jean-Marc To be the fastest guy on the block, iSonic 111 is spot on with a 7.5 and an 8.5 sail whereas iSonic 122 is spot on with a 7.8 and a 9.0 sail in pretty windy conditions. Both would be a sinker anyway for 115 kg.
If you want a safety buoyancy margin, iSonic 144 would be a semi-sinker for 115 kg (not the fastest of all but still faster than a Formula IMHO).

Cheers!

JM
13th June 2008 08:08 AM
Screamer SteveC

Yes he's super heavyweight, and in isolation 144 is the board. But:
1. He already has a bigger board (Formula)
2. He already sail a 130lit board (and he doesn't complain about volume from what he says)

That's why I recommended 133. But that isn't available.

If the choice is only these two boards, go for the AB although I don't know that board.
2007 iSonic will be too much "free formula", less real slalom I guess
13th June 2008 12:29 AM
steveC James, no problem. You're right that the both iS133 and iS122 seemed to be possible candidates mentioned by the original poster, and between these two the iS133 would be more suited. I guess my suggestion targeting the iS144 was predicated more on what the optimum board would be for such a heavy guy.

Given the bottom line choices mentioned in post #15, it seems to be more of an apples and oranges thing with very little room to move. Frankly, when considering an important investment like this, I like to go for the optimum, even if that might mean spending more or having to wait for an order.
12th June 2008 09:59 PM
James SteveC- I agree that the 2008 iS 144 would be the best for a huge guy like unregistered. I only recommended the 133 because I thought his choices were between the 133 and a 2007 iS 145, which, like Jean-Marc says, is a nearly 90 cm wide Free Formula.

Between the 07 iS 145 and the AB + 80 I don't know which would be best for unregistered. I guess it depend on whether or not he can slog and uphaul with just 134 liters.
12th June 2008 04:57 PM
Unregistered Ok guys, thank you for your advice but I'm still hesitation and I have to decide myself very soon.

Considering that I have only the choice in my local area to get one of these boards :

- Isonic 145 (starboard 07) 224x88,5x145 ltrs
- AB + 80 (Anders Bringdal design 07) 235x80x134 ltrs

Which one would you take considering that :

- I have a Formula board with 11m
- I'm 115 kg
- I want to sail the new board with 7,5/8,5 and maybe 7,8/9,0 later on
- I want something really faster than my formula

Any advice appreciated !
12th June 2008 12:19 PM
Jean-Marc Don't be fooled by the width of a board to say it's closer to a slalom or to a Formula. Rails shape and thickness, scoop-rocker line, outline, etc... are all key features as well.

2007 iSonic 145 : (free)Formula >>> slalom
2008 iSonic 144 : slalom >>> (free)Formula

For a heavy weight >90 kg, iSonic 144 is spot on WRT iSonic 133 IMHO as a large slalom board.

Cheers !

JM
12th June 2008 06:37 AM
steveC James,

You must be kidding recommending a iS133 over a iS144 for such a super heavy guy, given virtually the same outline shape. Do you imagine that he's super powered up most of the time?.
12th June 2008 02:28 AM
James Ok, I guess the 2007 145 would be too similar to your formula... I'm remembering now it was very wide and looked more like an F-type than the other isonics.

I'll go with Screamer in reckoning that the 133 from either 2007 or 2008 would be fine for what you want (a fast slalom board for a 253 lb guy).
12th June 2008 12:26 AM
steveC "I'd like something really fast and which feels like a slalom board, not a formula but would an Isonic 133 or 122 be suitable for me with 7,8 and 9,0 ?"

Given your weight, I would think that the 2008 iS144 would be your optimum pick. It virtually the same outline shape as the iS133, but its added volume specifically targets heavyweights for light wind slalom.

Regarding your concern that a board like the iS144 is too close to formula, I think that it's important to remember that the iS144 will be focused more on reaching rather the upwind/downwind attitude of formula.

In light of the fact that you pointed out that a 2007 iS145 was board available in your area, you might want to query a bit more about the pluses and minuses between the iS144 and the iS145 before making your decision.
11th June 2008 05:01 PM
Screamer I don't think that 5cm will make a huge difference by itself, but I believe 2008 133 is a much improved board. Some users reported 2007 was hard to get planing, this is supposedly better now with the dual flat planing section.
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