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5th September 2008 06:56 AM
Unregistered We do have a lot of float and ride stuff here but i've decided to go for an 80l. Still in two as to ET or not minds as the wood carbon would seem to be the logical choice in the ET but with the E80 any construction would be fine. Is the 09 E80 more drivey in the same way that the new E70 is reprted to be?
2nd September 2008 12:34 PM
Ola_H OK, then I think an Evil Twin is worth a try. The question is which one. Personally I very very rarely need more than 80 liters. Its pretty much only when it is both big, lots of current and almost no wind at all it might be nice. But then, if the waves are big you still want a smaller board on the wave so I usually go for 80 or smaller anyway.

But as I wrote, with the twin fin setup you can handle more board once on the wave. So if you often sail when the only way to get out is to really float, the ET87 will be the best choice. WHen the 87 get too big, I believe you can step right on the E70. Not much overlap, but not much of a gap either.

Tell us what you decided.
2nd September 2008 05:48 AM
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E80 vsET87

Thanks for the prompt reply.I'm interested to hear how the 09 E80 has a bit more drive than the ET87. Would you say that is also true compared to previous years Evos? I've read that the 09 E70 is particularly drivey.

Here on the east coast of Australia we do sail bump and jump only when the wind direction is unsuitable for the ocean or the waves are tiny so the E80 with bigger fin sounds appropriate. However I look forward most to the side cross/off days with waves which are often gusty, sub planing but I'm fine once on a wave and would soon sacrifice B+J performance for DTL waveriding performance.I know that both the Evo and ET will do the job well. I would like to have an E80 and 90 but can't justify the cost so I'mbeginning to think the ET 87 might be th ebest compromise.
1st September 2008 03:15 PM
Ola_H Hi

I haven't sailed the ET87 nor the ET80, so its hard to say exactly how they would work for someone our weight (I'm 70 so rather close to you). The ET 74 planes fairly early though and the ET80 has a faster rocker and is wider so it should go a fair bit earlier and the ET87 maybe a bit earlier still.

I don't think you need to worry about the gap to the E70 becoming to large even if you go for the ET87. The E70 is a versatile board and works really well all the way from powered up 5.3. Its only when you need the volume or prefer some more width to drive the turn on that a bigger board is needed. And of course when you just want "more board" for light/gusty onshore.

So as I see it you are pretty much free to choose E80, ET80 or ET 87. The question is only to find the board who will handle your light wind duties the best. All are riding oriented and since the ETs are based on EVOs they are rather similar in overall feel. But the ETs have narrower tails and, of course, twin fins. They will be comparatively easier to get on their rails and easier in the top turn relative their size. On my ET74, upwind (also in marginal conditions) is very good too and there is no reason to believe this should not hold for bigger ETs.

But I still think the E80, especially with a bigger fin, can be trimmed for better onshore/B&J performance. It has evolved over the years and is now a rather crisp feeling board with a huge range. But if you're not so worried by this straight line drive, an ET would make a great big board.

And maybe the 87 would be the best. But I would still think about if the ET80 is not big enough? At your weight it will surely carry 5.7 well and I think that if you sometimes sail more B&J like conditions you might wanna put on a bigger sail (relative the wind) to get some more drive. This might be easier to on the smaller ET80. So in such conditions you might in fact be able to get more straight line drive out of the ET80. What do you think?

Edit: What I personally found from using EVO 80, 90 and 100 is that while there are times when extra volume of the 90 is nice, it does not really translate to earlier planing for me. And in onshore stuff, the board gets a handful when you get powered up and you need to be careful with fin size to be able to handle it. With the E80, you can go for a bigger fin and a bigger (or more powerful set) sail and get a better blasting board. This is the background for the last paragraph above, but I can't say for sure how it relates to ET80/87.
1st September 2008 09:41 AM
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Best big wave board

This is a question perhaps for Ola.I know you think that the Evo 70 + 80 would make a great combo. I can see how that might work well. What would you say to an evil twin 87 instead of the E80? I'm interested in the top turn capabilties of larger twin fins and suspect that an ET87 might parallel an E80 in terms of range and planing ability?Would it be too much of a step down to the 70? I sail a lot of 5.3-5.7 gusty conditions in reasonable sideshore small to medium waves and would love to use the E70 more than I do however reality says I need a bigger board. I'm 72 kgs.

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