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21st February 2010 01:20 AM
eric b 125 i'm going to buy a waist harness. i have the seat (although outdated, i'm sure) and not only did i have trouble getting hooked-in, but when a gust would over-power me, i couldnt get un-hooked early enough to prevent from getting launched while attached to the rig- not good news for the nose of the board.
19th February 2010 12:20 PM
COACHG Iíve never heard of or thought of a correlation between a seat harness and breaking booms. Todayís booms are built much better but not too long ago the biggest correlation to breaking booms had to do with harness line width. When you placed your harness lines close together you point loaded the boom and it was much more likely to break.

As an instructor I often have students that ask about which harness to get or why I use one harness one day and another later on. I tell them that a waist harness is easier to learn on, easier to put on and easier to use so it will generally be the preferred harness. I also tell them that no matter how well made or how tight a waist harness is, it will still ride up a little in a gust where as a seat harness will not. I also point out that a waist harness wonít fit all people-people with too much midsection or no waist.

Now, here is how that little thing about riding up in a gust affects your sailing. If you are sailing in a situation where you need to spill power the waist harness is great because the riding up will force the sail to sheet out a little whether you want it to or not. If you are sailing in a situation where you absolutely canít afford to spill any power, use a seat. Otherwise, use a waist.

Coachg
18th February 2010 02:57 PM
Unregistered Get used to both as each as hits merits.

A point not mentioned (and main one I adopted to a chest/waist is extra loading put on boom end with a seat.Sitting into a seat harness puts loads of ttwist into boom.

Diffference is to do with your centre of gravity. Seat pulls through bodies CoG ;chest doesn`t. Ultimately seat has to be less tirin. (but more damaging to boom ???)
18th February 2010 08:01 AM
COACHG Eric,
You detect sarcasm from someone who uses both.

Coachg
18th February 2010 07:22 AM
eric b 125
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Yeah, right.
do i detect a hint of sarcasm, or are you being serious in your agreement, coach?
18th February 2010 06:11 AM
davide In addition to waves and frestyle, most PWA sailors use a waist harness for slalom. I switched last year and I found the waist harness much better for overall control of the board. It also makes hooking in/out of the harness easier, and therefore you come into the jibe with no hassle from the harness, and it helped planing, probably because it is easier to keep a correct stance, or maybe is the pull that puts less weight on the tail.

Only limitation I can see is with big sails, I used it up to 7.3, not yet with a 8.0.
17th February 2010 08:59 PM
Ken I went from a chest harness in the "old days" to a seat harness and never tried a waist harness. I thought they would pull/stress my lower back too much where a seat harness wouldn't. I have always raced - long boards, course slalom and formula and the seat harness is the only way to go.

Here is one for you - I sail with my spreader bar hook facing up. In the "old days" with a chest harness, I would lean back so far that the line would slip out and I would fall back into the water. Solution - turn the hook up. Now, my lines only come out when I want them too. I tried to go back for a short time, but couldn't make the switch.

Occasionally, I accidentally get hooked in during a jibe, but that only happens if my booms are too low or if I don't bend my knees enough.

It works for me.
17th February 2010 07:04 AM
COACHG
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Once you get used to a waist harness you will never go back & and your skill level will improved. Sell your seat harness.
Yeah, right.
16th February 2010 07:07 PM
Farlo With its lower hook the seat harness will transfer more of your weight from feet to mast base. It helps keeping the board flat on water, moreover if you wear a weight jacket Went from 15 years of "sitting" and adopted the waist in a minute. Just found it more convenient & comfortable overall although you get tired faster in overpowered conditions. However if your difficulties come from poor rigging/tuning a waist harness may not fix them, but it can make you more confident which is 50% of the job.
16th February 2010 05:05 PM
Unregistered Once you get used to a waist harness you will never go back & and your skill level will improved. Sell your seat harness.
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