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8th December 2006 12:22 AM
steveC
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Hi Andrey,

Looks like you have had some great input since my original post above. Really, a lot of very positive information, except for the clear indications of the board's inherent fragility. Regarding that, I have to question the addition of EVA foam to the board. While EVA foam would offer a buffer of sorts against boom or mast strikes, it looks so tacky. Despite the old school pointy nose, which still looks good in my book, it would take away from the board's sleek good looks and shape.

If you are truly worried about protecting the nose of the board, I think Geoff's suggestion of reinforcing it with added glass and epoxy makes the most sense. If the job is done right, before the nose has been damaged, it makes the job quite a bit easier and it ensures the best integrity overall. Really, the toughest part is spending the time to carefully fair the added material into the existing shape.

If you lack experience performing repairs, you might want to check out the BoardLady's website below, as it offers an excellent source of information to guide you down the right path. She's a seasoned pro at repairs, so you can readily depend on her instructions and recommendations.

http://www.boardlady.com/repairs.htm

7th December 2006 09:52 AM
GEM
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

I concede to Zots critique that I have not had a lot of time on the 8'11", but I have ridden all the boards in this line (save the Floater, of which I only studied an acquaintances board), and the whole line are all very similar in feel and construction. If there were ever a production series that felt like they were a "family", the Mistral / Naish series was it.

Also, having sailed them, AND being an admirer of Robby, I think that these boards reward the sailor who sails like Robby - powered all the way through the jibe, hard aggressive carves, sail rigged to be 'back-handy' (which helps get vertical in the jumps). Go for it in this fashion, FULLY powered up, and you'll be richly rewarded on any of the boards in this line. Sail timid, and on this stuff you're gonna get thrashed and break it a lot. If you're gonna sail wimpy, you'll do a LOT better in that case with a Carve. Kombats too, I really like my Kombat.
7th December 2006 09:37 AM
GEM
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

I'm sympathetic to that.

I've put an EVA foam pad on one of my boards - a C131 - I'm not really worried about the C131 but I had some friends that were struggling to get in the straps and on (what I viewed as) harder boards to sail and jibe, and I wanted to feel comfortable with loaning out the board. So I put on a nose protector.

In the case of the Naish, as I said it got accidentally dinged a couple of times, and I decided to sand the nose down to the glass (which, BTW, is a single layer of open weave fiber that I would guess to be about 8 oz. cloth) and added some layers of glass / WEST epoxy. Since the mods, I HAVE had some very hard launches (ran aground on a 3.7 day), and the nose is quite solid. I didn't want to make the nose "harder/stiffer" than the rest of the board, so I mainly glassed the rails and faired it into the body a good bit. The Mistral / Naish boards are FRAGILE, because they are made of the ultimately lightest production technology they could muster at the time. The upside is that they are fast as all getout and get HUGE air. Remember, Robby himself said about the 8'7", "The faster you go, the higher you jump". He got that right!

Depending on how you want to use a board, who's going to use it, what the projected conditions are, etc., I think the EVA pad is a logical pick.

Without naming specific devices, there are gizmos that attach to the mast base and are designed to deflect the mast away from the nose. I've never used one of those, because I intend to STEP right where they want me to put this THANG. So I reject all such options.

I myself wouldn't hesitate to get any of the boards in this quiver (in fact I've wanted my buddy to decide to sell me his 8'5" wave). But if I thought it would be vulnerable to nose dings, I'd reinforce the nose a little straight away. It's a good winter project...
7th December 2006 12:26 AM
letik
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Just wondering...
Some of you mention nose protector some, good mast
pad. Is it one or the other or is it both?

I'm just thinking that maybe if I have some very soft
thick mast&boom protector maybe the nose protector won't be needed.

Sorry for going in circles, but it's always sad to have a broken board; then spend time on repairs and then have it leak...

Andrey

6th December 2006 04:42 PM
n1kl05
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Hi,
I used to have an 8 11 and liked it but it has some weaknesses.
I have to say that I live in Hungary/Central Europe and mainly used that board on lakes with 2-4 ft high waves/chops and that one was my only board therefore I used it with quite wide sail range (4.7 to 6.7).
Yes, it`s fast and jumps well but got very nervous in overpowered conditions. It carried my largest sail (NP diablo 6.7) pretty ok though I didn`t feel it ideal to this board. I`d recomment to use it with a 6 or so.
The original fin (as far as I remember it was a 27cm Naish FR) is not the best one. Got spin out easily and had very bad upwind ability. I changed it to a bigger Maui FR (31cm) and it was much better and helped the large sail size also.

It is FRAGILE. I managed to crash it`s nose at the first time on the water and had to have it repaired.

I decided to change it to a Kombat 95 and buy a bigger one (120 Xcite) for lighter days. These 2 gives me better coverage on windy days here and have better characteristics.

Laszlo
6th December 2006 11:09 AM
zots
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Try the thing yourself!!!!
6th December 2006 07:24 AM
GEM
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

In fact, I dinged the nose of my board several times, never in a launch, but always when the wind died and schlogging in bobbing water I just fell off and the mast dinged the nose when it hit the board. Afther the 2nd or 3rd time, I bit the bullet and simply reinforced the nose of the board a little. It's so light, I never really notice the added weight. But that's how fragile it is. Very fragile, and I don't think the biggest possible rig is a great idea. I think a 7.0 would be the biggest I'd ride on it.
6th December 2006 06:32 AM
Windman
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Goor morning, Letik,

That whole series of boards were produced with a very thin nose and many of them suffered dings and worse. As a suggestion, you might get the longest mast protector available, then fit it upside down, just below the boom. Hopefully its length will cover the nose area that has been a problem.

Would have to say though, that the swing weight of a 7.5/8.0 is pretty high and the board's nose is thin, so........

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Windman
1st December 2006 11:49 PM
letik
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Nathan, thanks! I wonder what will happen if I put my
datona 8.0 (very light rig) on it and let's say 37 cm JP
freeride/carve fin. What's the maximum fin size you can use
with it?
My board is actually almost new and was only used several times
before i got it. The nose worries me if hit with a boom!

Thanks
1st December 2006 04:20 AM
Nathan
RE: Mistral Naish 8'11 - any experiences?

Love It, the board was and still is fun to ride
I've still got mine (although it has been repaired a few times ) and use it regularly.

Biggest sail i use is a 6.6 and JP fin 29cm. At the time of release on the market the recommended max sail size was 7.5 minimum sail size 5.0

Nathan
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