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23rd July 2010 08:35 PM
Haggar KVDA, yes you need to really reef on the tack strap, that puts lots of shape in the bottom of the sail and aids stability. Keep the sail off the boom otherwise I'm told the compact clew doesnt work. As far as downhaul, I had been using full downhaul as I used to use on my RSR's, but it seems to be that this may be too much, so I will try to reduce this a bit. If anyone can comment please do,

cheers
19th July 2010 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BelSkorpio View Post
Yes, a very nice performance of Erik Loots indeed.
Mirror flat shallow water on "The Brace", a famous speed spot in Holland.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYADcpo8cIs
It seems that the MKIII has a lot of top end speed in this conditions.

But still, I know what I felt.
The RS:Racing is far more controllable in heavy gusts combined with chop.
It's the better slalom sail according to me.
There's also a whole lot of difference in jibing c/w the more nervous MKIII.
Yeah Eric changed to *board Severne and using his new reflex 5.6 for the first time did a peak of 45.9knts and 43+knt average so the MKlll are duds
18th July 2010 03:18 PM
kvda
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Originally Posted by Haggar View Post
I had RSR's in a 6.7 and 5.8 and used these on X6 masts, not ideal I know, but in Aus the X9's are just so expensive. I have changed to RSS MK III's - 6.2 and 7 again on X6's. Initially I thought the control was slightly less on a square reach, but every time I use these sails I like them more and more. Control is fine for me, as for speed, cant comment yet as I hav'nt had the best conditions yet. One of our better GPS sailors did 40 knts + last month here on a 6.2 RS MK III. The tack strap is very important and you have to tune them different. For me they are the best sail for me at the mo and suite me fine. If you've got money to burn, yeah go RSR and X9's
Hi Haggar,
could you tell me more about how you tune the MKIII? To me it seems the downhaul is different compared with the racings, and what about the tack strap??
tnx.
13th July 2010 06:39 PM
BelSkorpio Hi Haggar,

I'm not so sure if we (mortals) will feel the difference between 75% or 100% carbon masts. The best way to test it would be by rigging up 2 RSR (or RSS) sails, one with the X6 and the other with the X9 mast and actually try to feel the difference.
I think that the carbon percentage gets more important in the tallers masts (> 490)
This is just my opinion.
Probably I will get a lot of reactions now.

I'm convinced about feeling the difference in control between a RSR and a RSS sail. The difference was quite substantial.
PS: I use a 75% carbon Tribord mast in my RSR. It performs very well according to me.
13th July 2010 10:02 AM
Haggar Hi BelSkorpio, no I was'nt able to compare on the same day and conditions. I came to a decission point to either keep RSR's and get X9's, or change to RSS's and keep the X6's. It was really a question of budget. There are other sailors that I know that are getting as good as speeds out of the RSS's MKIII's as the RSR's. I would certainly expect the RSR's to be more stable, an extra CAM and wider luff pocket has to pay dividends. I may think differently after next season (no wind here at the mo).
12th July 2010 09:06 PM
BelSkorpio Hi Haggar,

Were you able to still test your RSR and RSS sails on the same day in the same conditions or did you already sell your RSR ? Was the ride choppy and rough enough to evaluate the difference on the level of control ?

I was lucky to do that with my friend's RSS sail.
12th July 2010 07:16 PM
Haggar I had RSR's in a 6.7 and 5.8 and used these on X6 masts, not ideal I know, but in Aus the X9's are just so expensive. I have changed to RSS MK III's - 6.2 and 7 again on X6's. Initially I thought the control was slightly less on a square reach, but every time I use these sails I like them more and more. Control is fine for me, as for speed, cant comment yet as I hav'nt had the best conditions yet. One of our better GPS sailors did 40 knts + last month here on a 6.2 RS MK III. The tack strap is very important and you have to tune them different. For me they are the best sail for me at the mo and suite me fine. If you've got money to burn, yeah go RSR and X9's
8th July 2010 08:13 PM
Kimba Hi BelSkorpio & Jan,
I have only used the combo a few times and agree with Jan that from 17 knots the draft starts to wander. This is on a day when it starts out light and you tune accordingly. You might get more top end range with tuning but I would rather go to the 7.8 and 68cm board.
I am 110kg/193cm and find that the 130L/84cm(similar to the 131, a little longer@ 241) is just under what would be optimum for me to plane earlier on really marginal days. I hope the extra volume & width will sit a little higher and not be as physical to get planing. I am sure it will lose slightly to a lightwind slalom at the top end deep of the wind but I am after a board that is always on the plane and has the best average speed. I heard from the dealer conference that it is a really fun board to sail.
I agree the MkIII is harder to trim - if you try to your old favourite rigging tricks, I am still learning to re-think my trimming to suit the new designs.
8th July 2010 07:15 PM
Unregistered Haha, no not really any big biceps - but 196cm tall and 95kg, so yes - I do sail larger sails in windy conditions.

/Jan
8th July 2010 06:45 PM
BelSkorpio Wow Jan, 16-17 knots (pretty 5 BFt) and a 9,5 m2. Impressive.

Either you have a lot of technique or you have mighty big biceps.

I've been sailing a 8,4MKII last weekend in slightly overpowered conditions (gusts to 16-17 knots). I could handle it because of side off-shore wind with super flat water. I wonder what a RSR 8,4 would feel like in the same conditions.

Greetz.
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