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5th January 2011 10:28 PM
Farlo You are welcome. In fact I meant that because of your very light weight, you may benefit from the extra stability of a (small) cammed sail. But NCX is certainly stable enough already. You won't regret it. Have fun!!
5th January 2011 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Farlo View Post
Well I don't know Severne sails. From what I've heard the Overdrive is close to a race sail: lots of high-end speed/control but little low-end power. Might be closer to a 6.5 NCX. Both would be good options but you mention wind averaging 8-12 knots. If you are facing such conditions quite often, then a 7ish sail makes sense. IMHO cams do not bring significant benefits on sails < 7 mē (outside speed/competition) but this is debatable, moreover at your weight.
Hi Farlo

I guess i will go for NCX 7.0m then since cam is not really beneficial at my weight and also due to the wind strength. Thanks for the prompt reply.
4th January 2011 07:12 PM
Farlo Well I don't know Severne sails. From what I've heard the Overdrive is close to a race sail: lots of high-end speed/control but little low-end power. Might be closer to a 6.5 NCX. Both would be good options but you mention wind averaging 8-12 knots. If you are facing such conditions quite often, then a 7ish sail makes sense. IMHO cams do not bring significant benefits on sails < 7 mē (outside speed/competition) but this is debatable, moreover at your weight.
4th January 2011 06:12 PM
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Unregistered,

Water-start is more difficult with cambers, no discussion about it.
Especially from size > 8m2.
It gets easier with the smaller sizes but remains more difficult.

I don't exactly know your windsurf level, but I can assure you that jibing should not be a factor to whithold you from cambered sails. Once you get used to it, you will actually prefer to jibe with cambers because they help you better pull through the maneuver. I'm talking normal jibes, no duck jibes or other fancy moves.

I only bring this up because you said yourself and I quote:
"I felt overpowered sometime and was overtaken by guys who are larger than me on a smaller setup"
Cambered sails help you a lot in overpowered conditions. The profile of these sails, creating the big belly, makes sure that the power of the sail stays in front which results in hammering the board down, discharging the load on your trailing arm. At the same time you'll benefit of higher and more controlled speed.
Perhaps you will benefit more from a better sail than from another board, although I agree that the IS97 is much better for your weight.

Cheers.
Hi Belskorpio

I have no problem gybing with 7.8m Naish GP cambered sail and appreciated the stability such sail offers. My skill is intermediate (able to blast comfortably in straps and carve gybe though its non planning) but can't do proper waterstart due to lack of consistent wind. And when its really honk, i will size down to my next smaller 5.5 sail which i seldom used. I thought of learning water-start during lightwind day so decided to get a non-cambered instead.
4th January 2011 05:55 PM
BelSkorpio Unregistered,

Water-start is more difficult with cambers, no discussion about it.
Especially from size > 8m2.
It gets easier with the smaller sizes but remains more difficult.

I don't exactly know your windsurf level, but I can assure you that jibing should not be a factor to whithold you from cambered sails. Once you get used to it, you will actually prefer to jibe with cambers because they help you better pull through the maneuver. I'm talking normal jibes, no duck jibes or other fancy moves.

I only bring this up because you said yourself and I quote:
"I felt overpowered sometime and was overtaken by guys who are larger than me on a smaller setup"
Cambered sails help you a lot in overpowered conditions. The profile of these sails, creating the big belly, makes sure that the power of the sail stays in front which results in hammering the board down, discharging the load on your trailing arm. At the same time you'll benefit of higher and more controlled speed.
Perhaps you will benefit more from a better sail than from another board, although I agree that the IS97 is much better for your weight.

Cheers.
4th January 2011 05:46 PM
Unregistered Hi Farlo

Thanks. I was using my android smartphone to surf and thats why i can't see the specs. By the way, do you think the 6.7m Overdrive is comparable to the NCX pro 7m?
4th January 2011 04:26 PM
Farlo Just scroll the specs chart at the bottom. Smallest sail for IS97 is 5.5 indeed. I would use a 30/32cm fin as recommended. Add a 35/37 cm if you go for the NCX 7mē. You can check on http://www.select-hydrofoils.com/en/...ed-slalom-race for more details. Of course you won't get the very best from iSonic's with freeride sails but you probably know that already. Alternatively you may consider the Futura's 93/101 or the Fanatic Ray 100 which would suit no-cam sails better.
4th January 2011 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BelSkorpio View Post
Hi unregistered,

May I ask why you want to use a NP Hellcat on an Isonic ?

I'm a big fan of NP, but not of the Hellcat

If you don't want to go for the expensive NP slalom/racing sails, you still have the NP Heliums as a good alternative. These sails are MUCH better and faster than the Hellcat.

Are you afraid of the cambers regarding jibing ?
Or is it because you don't have the correct NP mast ?

I can tell you that there are a lot of good and cheaper alternatives for the expensive X6 & X9 NP masts.
Hi belskorpio

I tot of using no cam cause it easier to water-start with, gybe and required less maintainence compared to cambered sail. I have a cambered 7.8 2010 np grand prix and felt that it was very stable sail and easy to handle during planning but it is difficult to watertart with. Yup i also do not have the correct np mast and is using the naish 75% carbon mast. By the way, i also did consider 6.7m 2010 overdrive but give it a miss becos it is cambered
4th January 2011 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Farlo View Post
Option (B) is probably the best if you don't keep the Grand Prix. With option (C) you may loose too much in marginal winds. I don't know NCX but 1.5 mē gap makes sense for a two sails quiver. Naish Sprint 5.5 is already quite small, even for your weight. IS 97 may be too wide / not ideal for smaller sails.
Hi Farlo

Thanks for the reply. What is the recommended min sail size for isonic 97? I don't see it on the website? And what size fin do u recommend if i opt for option b since the new isonic doesnt come with fin.
4th January 2011 12:01 AM
BelSkorpio Hi unregistered,

May I ask why you want to use a NP Hellcat on an Isonic ?

I'm a big fan of NP, but not of the Hellcat

If you don't want to go for the expensive NP slalom/racing sails, you still have the NP Heliums as a good alternative. These sails are MUCH better and faster than the Hellcat.

Are you afraid of the cambers regarding jibing ?
Or is it because you don't have the correct NP mast ?

I can tell you that there are a lot of good and cheaper alternatives for the expensive X6 & X9 NP masts.
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