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5th January 2007 01:31 AM
Julian
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

Interesting what you say here JJ, what are your experiences with a camberless sail like the Freeride on a Slalom board like the HS? I once put a Gaastra Matrix on my iSonic but that didn't work out too well, sail profile didn't give me enough power to get going...

On the other side, HotSails makes very good camberless speedsails, so maybe Ezzy did even better than I think with the Ezzy Freeride
4th January 2007 04:00 AM
John1
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

Hi Julian
I??m not an Ezzy empolyeed but Have some Ezzy sails. I also have Tushingham Ligtning 9,4 and another smaller. The ligthning is a very good sail and specially when powered up. But I have understood that Charley wants a "freeride like" sail, facil to handle, both in the upper and lower windregister. For the Hypersonic boards I have learnt that its very important to have a sail with power to help the board to planning conditions (difficult with the HS). When powered up its important to have a stable forward, draft profile in the sail to get a balanced board with equal forces to both legs. With the HS you have the tendency to sail with maximal attention not to loose the equilibrium between all the forcesand you will soon be tired. Its difficult to make the sailtrimming, with boomhight, footstrap positioning and mastfoot placement.

Therfore I think that a extrem forward, deep-draft profile would facilitate that trimming and specially if this profil will stay even in well powered up conditions. If uoy do not have experiences with the Ezzy sail I will recommend the tushingham sails. Another reason to buy the Ezzy sail its the quality which is superior to most of the other brands.
I would be very glad to hear some comments from a more professional than myself.
With regards,
John J.
3rd January 2007 03:04 PM
Julian
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

Hey, I never said your opinion was wrong, did I but I gave my opinion about the sail too, so that he can take that factor with him in his decision

And sorry about the misreading, guess I need to get used to the fact that other parts of the world use km/h as a wind standard, not knots
3rd January 2007 12:17 PM
andreas
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

@Julian: I just wrote what sails I am using and what I think about them. I like the R-Type.

By the way you should read carefully: I wrote 15km/h NOT knots (15km/h ~ 3 beaufort ~ 8 knots).

Hang loose, Andreas.
3rd January 2007 05:45 AM
Julian
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

Maybe you're right, but have you tested other sails and came to this conclusion? Or are you in some way an Ezzy empolyee and is you're opinion somewhat pre-set?

I had an interview with David Ezzy about the new freeride for www.surfgear.nl, and the most interesting thing I learned that David said he never thought he could make a camberless sail with the profile of a camber induced one, but the Freeride proved him wrong!

Interesting that he discovered how to do that, but why keep the infinity then?

2nd January 2007 11:01 PM
John1
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

Again:
I think that Ezzy Freeride has the most forward, deep-draft profile of all the sails at the market and that this parameter is important for the HS-boards (because of its underwaterdesign.
JJ
2nd January 2007 11:00 PM
John1
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

Again:
I think that Ezzy Freeride has the most forward, deep-draft profile of all the sails at the market and that this parameter is important for the HS-boards (because of its underwaterdesign.
JJ
2nd January 2007 09:07 PM
Julian
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

I've sailed with the R-Type some times, and my experience is that this sail feels like a camberless sail, but without all the nice things that camber inducers give! No good profile, heavy and the foot of the sail is s?? low, that the sail gets in the water too fast (and therefore closing the gap isn't very nice).

Not my recommendation, and besides: with that weight, it isn't th??t hard to plane in 15 knots with 8.5 ...
2nd January 2007 02:52 PM
andreas
RE: New sail for my hypersonic 111

I am using a 8.5m North R-Type from 2006 with my HS111. It has two cambers and I find it very easy to rigg. I can plain in 15km/h windspeed (75kg). The sail is very stable an has a superb performance up to 5 beaufort (I mostly sail on lake with minimum chop of 15cm). The second sail I use with my Hyper is a Gun Sails Tempo (6.4m with 2 cams). With these two sails I get the most out of my beloved Hypersonic.

Hang loose, Andreas
2nd January 2007 07:22 AM
Guest
RE: Tushingham Lightnings for Hypersonic.

I must say that I agree with Julian.
For ease of use, performance, windrange, quality & price (what did I miss out?) it's really hard to fault the twin-cam Tushingham lightnings.
I know that people will say that I'm biased, being the Australian importer, but the reason that we choose to import them is because they are so good!!
Give them a demo - I'm sure that you'll agree.

Haqppy New Year to all.

Jez . www.jez@2ndwind.com.au
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