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18th January 2007 08:14 AM
Roger
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

Hi Guest,
I think it depends on if you want a really wide range board (the GO 139 which is really not just a beginner board as someone has suggested) or if you want something a bit more "turny" with a more limited range.
The GO 139 will handle larger (and smaller) sails a bit better than the Carve 133.
Once you get used to the slightly wider (80 cm) Go 139, you will be able to get planing somewhat earlier (same sail size) than you can on the 71.5 cm wide Carve 133.
If you learn a bit from the formula racers (who sail really wide 100 cm wide boards in pretty outrageous conditions...like 25 knots with a 9.0 m2 + rig) you can get quite a bit of high wind performance from the GO 139.
It's just a matter of tuning for the conditions (up to a point of course) to keep the little GO "on the water".
In conditions that suit the high end range of the GO 139. you are going to begin to experience some of the same "too much wind for the range of the board" issues with the Carve 133 unless you are one very heavy sailor.
If you want the largest range, and then a smaller board to cover the 20 knots+ plus range, the GO 139 would be a good place to start your quiver.
Anyone who feels the newer GO boards are only for beginners probably hasn't sailed one fully powered up in 15-22 knots of wind on a 6.5=-7.5 m2 rig.
If you have really big chop and very rough conditions, then the Carve makes a bit more sense.
Hope this helps,
17th January 2007 11:58 PM
crazychemical
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

I'm a Go surfer but i agree with Hugh, u soon wants something with just that exwtra edge. The go, on flatwater is more like a racing board than a real freerider. Carves offer u that free feel you're looking for and the 133 gives you the possebilety to put your straps inward aswell as outward so for any conditions ur sailable (the Go doesn't have this, a shame though, it only gives u beginner, medial and external setting). The 133 would be the better option if i were you. I always say, take the board with the least amount of liters possible for your level so u can experiment on rougher conditions with it aswell. The Go 139 and Carve 133 resemble eachother in most aspects (go to the 2006 starboard website, they make a professional comparison on it between the carve and the Go).
Have fun and good luck!!
(oh, on my avatar i'm surfin the Go 139 )

Haiko aka Crazychemical
17th January 2007 11:58 PM
crazychemical
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

I'm a Go surfer but i agree with Hugh, u soon wants something with just that exwtra edge. The go, on flatwater is more like a racing board than a real freerider. Carves offer u that free feel you're looking for and the 133 gives you the possebilety to put your straps inward aswell as outward so for any conditions ur sailable (the Go doesn't have this, a shame though, it only gives u beginner, medial and external setting). The 133 would be the better option if i were you. I always say, take the board with the least amount of liters possible for your level so u can experiment on rougher conditions with it aswell. The Go 139 and Carve 133 resemble eachother in most aspects (go to the 2006 starboard website, they make a professional comparison on it between the carve and the Go).
Have fun and good luck!!
(oh, on my avatar i'm surfin the Go 139 )

Haiko aka Crazychemical
17th January 2007 02:50 AM
-Lampi-
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

I'd definately go with the carve , because the GO is mainly for beginners, not really what i would describe you as. If you take the 144 your partner won't be having trouble with it, if you take the 133 it will probably be more exiting for you to ride...

It's your choice, though.....
17th January 2007 01:17 AM
Guest
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

Mich,

I too had a Tiga 285 LWR. The board was designed for expert sailors that could manage a stiff, light board with hard rails.

Plenty of good advice above. You will find that whatever you buy, it will be significantly easier to sail and jibe than the Tiga.

Ken
16th January 2007 10:38 AM
hugh_denholm
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

I am 78kg and the 133 is OK to uphaul and will take a 9.0 sail. As your partner is 90kg and you are looking for a little more volume, then the 144 might be more suitable for you. It will plane quicker but is still fast and fun.
The Go is a good board; but people who have bought them at our club soon grow out of them and want something with a little more "zing!"
15th January 2007 08:12 PM
Guest
RE: thanks crazychemical and hugh

hi crazychemical and hugh

thanks for all your advice - we have been thinking about the Go 139, but did not want to buy untested. We had a sail on a go 129 on the weekend. my partner had no trouble sailing it despite a lack of decent wind. while he was able to uphaul it when he had to, he felt a little more volume would assist - so i am thinking that the Go 139 may be the better option.

The 129 did feel a little slow to me (in sub-planning conditions) even with a 6.5m - so your feedback in relation to the 139 has made me feel more positive about its potential speed when in planning conditions.

I think now we need to make up our minds between Go and Carve. is the carve 133 or 144 likely to be a better option?

thanks mich
15th January 2007 06:31 PM
hugh_denholm
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

I have 2 Carves and my wife has an Mistral Explosion. The Explosion feels slow (is slow) and unexciting to ride; I would not recommend it. The Carve is wonderful.
14th January 2007 07:33 PM
crazychemical
RE: looking for advice buying a new board

I'm a freerider myself (progressing, still have trouble waterstarting, but hey) anyway... I surf with a starbord Go 139 from the 2006 range. it's a really fun freerider, with the right sailsize (for your partner, i weigh as much as he does, 7.5 m?? would be magnificent in about 4.5 BFt -5 BFT, i guarantee). you can hit speeds that will makes your toes curl of adrenaline. However i'm a bit dissapointed with it's low wind prestations. The go offers you multiple footstrappositions so you can vary it depending the rider.
Another good board in the Starboard range is the Carve series. Anything above the carve 122 is comparable to the Go and allows inward and outward footstrappositions. Both these boards have an enormous sailrange and can be used in mild choppy waters (i tried the Go in a wavy condition, BAAAAAAAAD idea!).
Mistral offers you the Explosion, which is a large freeride board, it's quite wide but small all the same which will make jibing a childs game. Also the larger Sreamer (so thats the 115) would give you that extra trill, but considering the conditions you both surf in (which are comparable to mine) i suggest a bit o a bigger board so u can still haul the sail out of the water if there isn't too much wind (so 120-140 L)
F2 offers the Stoke which is a strait edge freerider. you can check it's review on the F2 website etc. F2 is one of the oldest brands and over the years did deserve a lot of credit. The Stoke has a big range of liters so there's plenty of choice there.
But all in all, i can agree with what Lampi has said. I just gave you a couple of names (looking for a new board myself, though i know i'm sticking with Starboard, you just fall in love with the qualities of those boards - speedmachines of the greatest kind)
i just want to give you one more tip and that is to get a wide range of sails with your board. Mine reaches from 5.5 to 7.6 and i manage to sail on flatwater between 4 BFT to 6.5 BFT without any problems and with genious speeds (thoguh in 6.5 BFt i look really silly with my 139 L board between all the 98 L guys with the same sailsize as mine, but still, it's the spirit of the sport that counts, not the material)
Hope you find what you're looking for.
greetz - Haiko, aka crazychemical
6th January 2007 07:10 PM
Guest
RE: thanks

hi lampi

thanks for the advice - i will do some research

mich
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