|4th July 2013 07:08 AM|
|jmunkki||I wonder if it would be possible to build a 2-part or 3-part Serenity that you bolt together for windsurfing and undo for transportation & storage? It's a very light wind board, so I assume the stresses on the hull aren't quite as bad as on a slalom board. I've never tried one - it's frequently enough sufficiently windy here for a formula or large slalom board (I've gone back to using the Hypersonic on light wind days after a few years on an iSonic). It's not surprising that niche/experimental boards are discontinued after a few years to make room for new "experiments" or just fashion trends that expand the whole scope of the company (like SUP). SUP is really booming in Finland.|
|3rd July 2013 09:03 PM|
Have to say the alternative for me wouldn't be SUP, rather RS D2.
Not quite the light wind glide perhaps, but way more range
|18th June 2013 04:58 PM|
Serenity is the best thing I ever got for my windsurfing and I never get skunked anymore.
Instead of rigging a board with a 10 meter sail, I take the Serenity out with a 7.5. It goes upwind so nice you can go sight seeing with it.
And catches waves incredibly, so you sail fully powered 1/2 of the hull is up in the air and just fly with the wave.
It is smooth sailing and the boards lifts up and is not affected by crossing waves, no bumps on the road.
And very easy to lift up.
I call her the Princess
|22nd May 2013 12:59 PM|
One thing more. I use a simple system to tack easily, but I don't know if it works only whith the straight and higher rails (especially on the bow) of MKII or also with the more rounded MKI ones.
The system is to always think that Serenity works sometime in the opposite way compared to a common board, so after passing on the other side of the board you can push with your HEELS to submerge the curved windward rail when starting moving and so the board will turn DOWNwind, instead upwind like all other boards. I use this system also whan jibing and in every other situation I need to turn almost quickly. It's using the feet for turning like on a planning board, but... in the opposite way! A brain exercise togheter with the physical one of windsurfing, imho.
Imho again and sorry for my bad english
|22nd May 2013 12:26 PM|
Some more new from Serenity world...
First of all if you are around Munich in Germany you have the chance to buy on ebay.de a pretty good MKI version, ebay.de/itm/360656760482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p398 4.m1423.l2649 .
Second, I've recorded a test video in very light wind with my new Rollei 100 Action Cam over the bow of my serenity, I need to place it better and pointing higher, but it's not so bad you don't see my face but intead the nice colors of Serenity deck in the sunset... youtube.com/watch?v=fzv5G6owOGI&list=UUV0iS9yzGohE0dl3MJVa9Vg& index=2
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|26th April 2013 03:16 PM|
Yep, fans of Serenity are easy to spot on, especially when pics or a video is available...
As for tacking the Serenity, bank the board with the windward rail up and tilt the rig on the back towards the tail to head up dead upwind. Then, it's way easier to keep your balance when you simply oversheet the sail when you're dead upwind, with your front foot just in front of the mast base. Check out the following video at time 2:05 and 3:28 to see what I mean by sail oversheeting : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V97ikRFQDdU .
When passing dead upwind and especially if your stalls without any momentum anymore, tack the sail and frankly tilt the sail toward the nose of the board and pushing the nose sideways with your front foot placed inbetween the mast track and the tiki printed on the deck (back foot just behind the mast foot). Keep the sail sheeted out; if you keep the sail sheeted in, the nose of the board will not turn under your front foot but it will drift sideways with no motion forward and you'll stall. It's the same when you try to point too much upwind: the board stalls and starts to drift sideways. Tilt the sail forward and sheet out a bit to bear away a bit and gain speed again. This is why the Serenity has no footstraps because your feets are always dancing a bit along the median line of the deck to correct for sail trim and board pitch.
|25th April 2013 10:12 PM|
Jean-Marc, I'm very surprised you found that thread/forum/video. I guess the Serenity world is a smaller than I thought.
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll try keeping the front foot behind the mast. I've been getting much better at sailing the Serenity and actually now gybe it more than trying to tack. Sometimes it stalls out when I try to tack it and the board wants to slide sideways. At that point it gets very hard to point it in any direction. Any thoughts on how to get out of the stall?
As far as the WindSUP vs Serenity, I think that's comparing apples and oranges. I have two SUP's, a Naish Glide 12' (no mast option) and a Bic Jungle Wind 10'10" (my first windsurf board/SUP). If you have a school or just a beginner with a Serenity, that board should be nowhere near them. It will only frustrate and probably dissuade them from continuing with the sport.
I've used the Serenity as a SUP with the 40cm and 70cm fins in 0mph winds; I'm talking dead calm and it's not designed for it. Does it work as a SUP, barely. Would I take it on a 10 mile paddle session? NO WAY. It's not a kayak, it's not a SUP and it's not a wave board. It's a perfection of engineering designed to do what other boards can't in super light wind. I have a Kona One a Mistral Superlight II, F2 Lightning Race a bunch of short boards and the Bic wind/SUP, in light wind they're nowhere near the feel of the Serenity. And yes, I've schlogged on these boards as I'm fairly new to windsurfing (about 2 years). I loved schlogging and just wanted to sail anything; until I got the Serenity. It doesn't schlog!
I love the idea of an inflatable SUP/windsurfer Starboard recently released and I'd love to try it, I don't think I'll ever buy one. I have a collapsible kayak and it's nowhere near as fast as my rotomolded one. They're great for storage but you compromise in the ride quality. I'll take ride quality over storage issues whenever possible.
I'm waiting for the weekend and there's a regatta coming up. The wind forcast is 9mph gusting to 12; guess which board I'm taking? I have a huge smile on my face just thinking about it!
|14th April 2013 08:31 PM|
I want to say that there is some misunderstanding. Serenity in its range of wind is NOT a challenging or too difficult board. I'm and average to advanced windsurf and I've found teh serenity way less challenging than some small boards I.ve tried. Obviously is not a beginner board, but really is not a user-unfriendly one!
The beast thet Rieger speaks about is when using it in strong winds and rough sea.
Anyway here my only-in=Venice fleet:
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Isn/t she impressive and lovely?
|12th April 2013 03:01 PM|
Roger, Nakaniko, I am sure the Serenity is a great board but I think you might be missing the point. Of course the Serenity would work better than an 11' flat bottom WindSUP, but a lot of people do not care about light wind performance or a board that is "Very challenging ... At times it seems to have a mind of it's own ... " and requires a different technique to "tame the beast".
I am an "expert" windsurfer and as such I could be interested in a board like that. However I have plenty sailing challenging where I live, in San Francisco, and when I go out in light wind I am happy to just cruise around.
Maybe marketing-wise the serenity could come back as a "hook" for people who live in windless areas to "progress" from Win-SUP. But I think that what the sport needs first is simplicity, and even easier boards and rigs for beginners than there are now.
|11th April 2013 11:01 PM|
nakaniko has it right!
I sailed the Mk 1 Serenity extensively....in all conditions from pure glass < 5 knots of wind to 20+ knots of wind.
I've sailed a few SUPs (I do not like paddling.....sailing is far more efficient...even in very light winds). and while they do indeed give more stability, they sail nothing like the Serenity.
I've sailed it with a 4.2 m2 rig in way over 20 knots, and when you get the Serenity planning with the nose out of the water until the bow wave exits under the mast foot, it simply flies.....until.... the tail goes under....then it gets real interesting as the stability goes away completely. You have to slow down until the tail no longer submerges,
and that's as fast as it will go.
I've sailed it with smaller sails and small weed fins in very shallow water off the Florida coast, and the ability to
simply glide along checking out the marine life in total tranquility is awesome.
The ability to rail the Serenity and go upwind on the fin is really amazing.
In mid range winds (10-18 knots) with larger sails (6.5-8.5 m2) the Serenity really tests your techniques.
Very challenging to get the most out of the board. At times it seems to have a mind of it's own,, but you try slightly
different techniques and learn to "tame the beast".
Yes, the Serenity was designed by the late Jim Drake. This board took an extensive amount of his time to get it all
designed and tested.
I spent many hours discussing with Jim what his concepts were, and how they were integrated into the Serenity.
All of his suggestions seemed to work with the Serenity design and if you followed his suggestions, you could
fairly easily get the most from the Serenity as his suggestions were based on getting particular aspects of the
Serenity design to work for you.
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