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30th March 2007 12:24 AM
RE: First shortboard

Hi Craig,

While a 130+ liter board sounds perfect for the Puget Sound, that size range is quite big for classic Gorge sailing. As Ken noted above, most sailors in the Gorge target boards in the 70-100 liter range, even folks your size. Of course, there are light wind days at the Gorge where a 130+ liter board would work very well, but for conditions that the Gorge is known for, such a high volume board would be a handful in the swell and chop associated with the central Corridor spots (Swell City, The Hatchery or The Event Site). If you intend to sail at flatter spots like Stevenson or Rowena, a higher volume board is much more viable, especially given the fact that your sails are on the big side too.

If your decision isn't real time driven and you can afford to wait a bit, it might make sense to rent and test a few smaller boards at the Gorge. Big Winds is a Starboard dealer, and it's quite likely that they would work with you and apply all or some of any rental cost towards the price of a new board.

Moving from the much higher voume boards you have right now to your first shortboard, I'm sure that a 130 liter board might seem to represent a formidable challenge in itself. However, any real success with smaller boards (115 liters and down) depends greatly on your waterstarting skills. If you're comfortable waterstarting now, you're ready to go with a much lower volume board. Yet, if you must insist on maintaining an uphauling capability, a board in the 120-130+ range would be needed.

29th March 2007 11:35 AM
RE: First shortboard 2

I am 200 pds and currently switching from a GO 200 to a F-158. I live in Puget sound so I thought the F-158 would be a good board. I need a board for the Gorge and Washington coast. I have a 5.8, Retro 7.5, NP 9.0(V-8), 10.8, 11.0 TR-1 I am considering purchasing a S-Type 133 or carve for the Gorge any suggestions?

28th March 2007 08:40 AM
RE: First shortboard

I think the Carve 133 would be good. A friend of mine has one and it's a great board. At your weight and experience you should be able to uphaul it with a little practice, but tacking might be hard

You should probably look for the spots in the gorge with less wind and flatter water while you're learning. Using a smaller sail and fin and putting the straps more toward the center of the board might help you stay comfortable in stronger winds.

Good luck.
28th March 2007 02:00 AM
RE: First shortboard

Another question -

Will this be your gorge board, or do you live and sail in another location, and just want to use the board on a trip to the gorge?

SteveC's questions need to be answered to give a good response. As he said, your board is pretty big for normal gorge conditions, assuming you are experienced and have your water starts down.

Most gorge sailors are on boards from 70-100 liters.

27th March 2007 11:34 PM
RE: First shortboard

In light of the fact that the Gorge has great array of spots to sail where the conditions can vary considerably, I was wondering where you anticipate on sailing. Also, it would be helpful to know what sail sizes you would expect to use.

Right off the top, the volume of the boards that you're considering are normally quite high for the Gorge, so it might clarify things a bit to know whether you've got your waterstarting techniques wired. Is it important to you to maintain an uphauling capability?

27th March 2007 09:05 AM
First shortboard

Trying to decide on my first shortboard. I weigh 200 pds. I plan on using it in the Gorge. I was thinking S-Type 133 or 137. Maybe a Carve 133 or 144? Any advice will help!

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