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7th May 2007 03:38 AM
Guest
RE: Serenity

As Roger noted, the Kona is no match for the Serenity in subplanning. In fact the Kona is no match for ANY dedicated board in the conditions these boards are made for. Comparing the Kona to the Serenity in subplanning is like comparing the Kona to an Evo in waves. The Kona however does both.
The strength of the Kona is its scope, both for sailing conditions and rider's level. If you can afford a quiver and always have the right board at the right time with you – don’t buy a Kona.

Any chance that the Serenity will come as a two parts assembly?

Ilan
2nd May 2007 12:52 PM
Guest
RE: Serenity

I've got a Kona - extremely versatile board. Excellent in the 15-20 knot range planing, and reasonably nice in say 8-12 knots cruising with a 6 to 7.5 m sail. It won't plane nearly as early as a Formula or even quite as early as a big freeride will, but it 'slogs' way faster - but not nearly as quick as the Serenity. If I lived where the wind was seldom over 10 or 12 knots, the Serenity would be way more fun I'm sure (I've never sailed one yet). The Kona is pretty bulletproof too, whereas the Serenity sounds a bit fragile - I expect it feels a bit like sailing a violin - I doubt you want to try chucking it around. Must be great to take on keelboats in light airs though! Anyone done that yet?
Morley
2nd May 2007 12:50 PM
Guest
RE: Serenity

I've got a Kona - extremely versatile board. Excellent in the 15-20 knot range planing, and reasonably nice in say 8-12 knots cruising with a 6 to 7.5 m sail. It won't plane nearly as early as a Formula or even quite as early as a big freeride will, but it 'slogs' way faster - but not nearly as quick as the Serenity. If I lived where the wind was seldom over 10 or 12 knots, the Serenity would be way more fun I'm sure (I've never sailed one yet). The Kona is pretty bulletproof too, whereas the Serenity sounds a bit fragile - I expect it feels a bit like sailing a violin - I doubt you want to try chucking it around. Must be great to take on keelboats in light airs though! Anyone done that yet?
Morley
2nd May 2007 07:54 AM
Roger
RE: Serenity

Hi Clark,
The "A Taste of Windsurfing" and Starboard/Sailworks demo tour will be just down the road from you in Plattsburgh, NY on July 7-8th.
We will be working with APVM (Montreal WS Club) and the
Adirondak Boardsailing Club.
Also, if you travel to Hatteras, the new Sailworld Avon shop (between Villiage Video and Nino's Pizza) has at least one Serenity in their demo fleet.
Hope this helps,
2nd May 2007 05:10 AM
clarkr2
RE: Serenity

Hello all;
Does anybody know where the Serenity might be "test-driven" this summer, in Eastern Canada or in the Northeastern U.S. ?
Clark,
Montréal
29th April 2007 09:26 AM
Guest
RE: Serenity

Roger
I am definitely going to try the Serenity. But if that does not work out, what board do you think would be the best for me to replace the Mistral Malibu?
I have a Mistral Flow for higher winds and need a board for low winds up to 15 knots at which point the Mistral Flow takes over.
I have sails up to 10 meter. What do you think?
And by the way did you go to Bonaire this year and how was it?
Thanks Alena
29th April 2007 03:52 AM
Randy
RE: Serenity

Jean-Marc perhaps you and I were separated at birth - we both like the same kind of boards. (Hypersonic and Serenity). I've sailed my Serenity 14 times now, with sails from 6.0 to 8.5, but mostly with 7.4. With the large fin the 8.5 was really unecessary. I don't know if Serenity "planes", yet it can move very fast riding mostly above the water, on the fin. In that mode, the board is challenging, and even sort of scary. More fun is lighter winds (say 5-10 mph) when it can really fly and be a real pleasure to sail with 7.4.

As for 10-15, it can be sailed in that range, though I think a conventional board would be more fun.
28th April 2007 11:46 AM
Roger
RE: Serenity

Hi Alena,
I've sailed the Serenity in a very wide range of conditions.
20-25 knots with a 4.2 m2 Sailworks Hucker (the Serenity gets "scary fast in flat water with a 32 cm Tangent Reaper weed fin in these conditions) on very flat water and it was super "exciting".
I've sailed the Serenity in 12-16 knots with 5.6/6.6 Huckers and 7.2 m2 SW NX slm, as well as with the 7.5 m2 Severne Glide.
That's the beauty of the Serenity, you will never "slog" as long as there's at least some wind, but you can sail in all conditions up to where you want to start sailing your Flow and be "challenged" throughout the entire range.
Beyond 15 knots, you Flow may be more fun, as you can only go so fast on the Serenity, but even when it's maxed out, it's still challenging.
As I said before, I've sailed the Kona, and if you wanted to go racing, the Kona would be a better choice as there's now a Kona class at most races in the USA.
If you just want to free sail, the Serenity is probably better as it will sail circles around the Kona in < 6-7 knots of wind.
The Kona will be in slog mode in < 6 knots, but the Serenity will go nicely, and will not require a huge sail to do it.
Hope this helps,
28th April 2007 10:07 AM
Guest
RE: Serenity

Thanks a lot everybody.
I am looking at replacing my Mistral Malibu for low wind sailing. I have a Mistral Flow for higher winds over 15 knots.
I am definitely going to try the Serenity it is just so beautiful looking in the Videos.
The problem is that nobody is saying anything about what happens on the Serenity in winds 10-15 knots and how much fun relatively speaking does one get than? Is it still "serene"?

By the way I do not care about the actual speed I move in as long as it feels fast. I do not have a need to compete or measure the speed and could not care less. I do dislike shlogging.

Do you know at what wind speed would the Kona plane with a large sail?

I buy a new board very rarely and want to make a good choice that I will be happy with for a few years (like 15 years)
Thanks again
Alena
28th April 2007 05:52 AM
Ian Fox
RE: Serenity

Try a smaller sail, really !
It can be even more enjoyable with something easy and soft/er around 7-8m.

At first, everyone just thinks to throw more sail at it like FW and power it into performance.

STOP. right there.

This thing has a LOT more to offer than just outright "speed".

It&#39;s much more about the experience more than the performance.
(strange comment coming from me, agree, but it&#39;s true)

Cheers ~ Ian

PS : Jim officially estimated my board speed between 4 and 5kts in zero wind. That was consistant pumping (actually "fanning" in case of Serenity+7.5m Glide+70cm). Yes, there were plenty of fishing pole flags on the pure glass course to indicate "nothing". And it was dawn.



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