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24th September 2006 03:30 AM
SimonH
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

I liked the posting without having to register. It made the SB forum the most populer windsurfing forum out there. Big names in the windsurfing industry could post there opinions without letting everyone who they were. I think Starboard has cut it's nose off to spite its face with this compulsory registration. I for one dont look at the forum half as much. It's destroyed the strong debates that used to happen which was the magic of not having to register.
I also found the attacks on SteveC unfunny. Also people posting with other peoples names was crap as well.

Why cant registering be an option to post on this forum? This will stop the fools posting under other peoples names like Steves and will enable people to get back to the interesting debates that happened before. What can it do apart from improve the forum??

21st September 2006 07:28 PM
WSguy
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

Obviously, Star-boards won't go back to that unique type of board they had. Too Bad.
14th September 2006 02:26 AM
Floyd
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

Not sure wether its registration ; seasonal reasons or because site has changed so much, but Forum cwertainly doeas not seem as busy as it was.
Suppose time will tell; it might even have been a bad time to introduce registration. Nobody will know wether any long term changes in popularity are because of system changes or compulsiory registration ???
SB any comments ?
10th September 2006 01:16 AM
amitai
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

WSguy,

I would not necessarily say I lack experience with forums, but you are entitled to your opinions. The thing is this (IMHO) - in a forum, you should really try to behave the same way you do IRL (we seem to have some good examples of the opposite in this thread). Note that registration does not imply identification (although I usually prefer real life identification myself).

You should not fear trolls, you can make them go away very easily, by simply ignoring them (works every time, since trolls feed on attention).

You should not fear administrators aggressive editing (which has nothing to do registration, BTW) - If you feel it hurts the forum, or you, you simply quit the forum.

Regarding becoming a target, I'll send you a private message (another benefit of registration), giving you a nice way to avoid it.

Regards,
9th September 2006 06:26 PM
WSguy
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

I think you are deluded amitai, prabably due to your lack of experience with forums. In addition, your personal commitment, keith, to registration isn't the issue being discussed here. You ought to find something better to do with your time, not us. It takes two minutes to become a target and years to avoid stalkers who find you a good target.
9th September 2006 04:04 PM
keith Atkinson
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

listen people, find something to do with your time. whats the problem with a simple registration. it took me 2 minutes to put in my details, and im logged in permantly on my computer, to this site, as i am many others. its childs play! im sure if you put some more effort into a worthy cause instead of fighting with eachother, we might get some worthy discussions going on in the forum.
9th September 2006 04:14 AM
amitai
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

Registration is about accountability. It's not about losing your anonymity. In fact, even in a forum without registration, the combination of the forum owner and your ISP can be used to track you down - registration does not even shorten this path.

Editing by forum administrators is possible with or without registration, and while seemingly giving some short term benefits to the culprit, is in fact very damaging to him or her.

Some other nice things about registration:

* Unless a user really wants to conceal his or her identity, it is very easy for all of us to know who we are talking to.
* Registration and sign in give you a better surfing experience, with private messaging and other nice features.
* Forums with named users (either registered, or voluntarily signed) are better at creating a sense of community.
* Trolls are easier to identify. Even if a troll want to invest a lot of effort, he or she can only create and post via so many accounts. Trolls are very easily busted when you don't have to guess their identities.
8th September 2006 07:33 PM
WSguy
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

Lizard, even Starboard's unregistered forum was seeing heavy editing near the end. I've never seen anything like that 3D forum, though. Silicon Investor, a stock investors group of forums had a membership with subscription price. They guaranteed no editing. However, they took a big dive because they had to give up identies in civil suits. So many company presidents sued their posters that they lost their sticky time to Yahoo. If you don't take the bait and get in an exchange of insults invited by people like Screamer and SteveC, one can get by here, I believe. However, any confrontation with an editor will result in your thinking being silenced. Many of these editors see their regular posters as friends or supporters. Often they are thick as thieves. The Boards.co.uk gives special consideration to their subscribers to the detriment of anyone who attacks the blantant bigotry they profess. Since they keep it to foriegn nationalities, they make it very hard to enter into a defamation suit.
6th September 2006 06:18 AM
Slipin Lizard
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

Not to throw fuel on the fire, but just want to add a little perspective. The Starboard forum was one of the few I'd come across that didn't have a registration requirement, so I think its now just following the norm and is no big deal. If you want to know just how bad a forum can get, then think about this. I am a videographer and also do post production motion graphics and 3D graphic work. One of the 3D programs I was learning was supported by a forum, and I wrote in asking about render times, noting that the software took a long time to actually render out 3D images. Well, turns out the owner/president of this company actually goes on-line every night, and if he finds someone saying anything the least bit negative about his product, he either deletes it, or better yet, rewords your post to make it sound like you're praising his software instead of having issues with it. So much for freedom of speech! I went back to check my post, and was shocked to see it had been completely re-written. Now, could you imagine this forum being run that way? You have to register, but at least you get to say your bit and have your opinion out there.
5th September 2006 05:51 PM
Floyd
RE: Compulsory Registration ?

Think registration will remove some of the insults but we`ll lose some of the interest aswell.
Would like to know actual reasons from SB ; was it to remove spam or to control comments ?? If its former ; fine. If its the latter ; it wont work.
Good luck.
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