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crazychemical 10th February 2007 04:02 PM

A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
http://www.star-board.com/viewpage.php?page_id=68


check it out!!! Sb is finally going back to future, after Exocet and Tabou boards now starboard is bringing good old vintage longboards back in business.

Guest 10th February 2007 09:37 PM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
Yeah, that's a good thing. Maybe some surfers will buy the boards for stand-up-paddling, and then discover windsurfing by popping a sail on one day. Definitely a good thing.

I'd still like to see starboard make a normal windsurfing longboard. They've now done everything BUT that, which is strange. Hybrids, serenity, SUP boards... It's like having all the sides but not the main course.

o2bnme 10th February 2007 09:59 PM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
I'd love to see Starboard make a board similar to the old Mistral Superlight. That was/is a great lightwind board.

crazychemical 11th February 2007 01:01 AM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
i agree with our guest-poster. But this is a very good step in the right direction: a slim, long board which will get a lot of attention from longboardsurfers, at least i hope so.
Now to see if it takes on.

steveC 11th February 2007 01:12 AM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
It might be a bit too early for specific details, but I wonder about the weights of the two SUP boards. Without the integral adjustable dagger assembly, I would think the weight savings would be fairly significant. From my perspective, the ability to optionally attach a fin type dagger (similar to the Serenity) makes better sense than incorporating integral dagger assembly. I say this because my first sailboard included an adjustable dagger, and over time, I hardly ever used the board that way. Also, one could substitute a swept weedfin for vertical fin type dagger. An important feature in many locales faced with shallow conditions or kelp.

Another thing, I'm curious about the decision to go with a brass insert on the deck for attaching the sail assembly instead of going with a standard mast track. I would think that the standard mast track would be more robust overall, especially in a sizable surf environment. Yet, I'm surmising a bit, since true strength and durability has everything to do with how the inserts are designed and incorporated in the board.

Overall, these SUP boards are a very exciting addition to the Starboard line. I have to admit, these offerings have my attention. What's the suggested retail pricing?


steveC 11th February 2007 01:32 AM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
Oh, one more interesting thought. SUP boards like these don't have to be limited to windsurfing shops. I can easily see this type of product in the classic surf shops. Although there are no windsurfing shops anywhere close to where I live (absolutely nothing for over 120 miles), there are many local surf shops. I think that if a slightly different distribution model was investigated and tapped, the whole thing could easily be much more dynamic and offer the potential for tremendous growth. As the Guest poster above so insightfully noted, windsurfing could easily be a feasible outgrowth the existing surfing/SUP market.


crazychemical 11th February 2007 04:26 AM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
well, the SUB are in the first place paddle boards aren't they? (unfortuantly) which might explain the choice of designb and for the adjustable dagger.
I would indeed like to know a lot more specs of this board inclueding its retailprice. Longboards have been a sidehobby of mine and i've adjusted old longboards (i'm talking TenCate shippers! from like 1984) to fit all types of sails over the years so this sudden evolution in the windsurfing industry is one of them ost exciting ones i've seen in ages! and to see my fav brand taking more serious steps towards these types of boards is just a dream come true :d

Guest 11th February 2007 06:15 PM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
Looks really fun. Might give it a go. Makes more sense than kiting in light wind (swimming and all of those lines) and closer to true surfing.
These guys have good infos and are doing it in waves.

http://www.hotsailsmaui.net/forum/viewforum.php?id=4
http://www.surfingsports.com/standup_paddle_surfing.asp

Guest 12th February 2007 04:26 AM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
Wish it had a centreboard. :-(

Problem with a fin is that it tends to be too small at low speeds, and it tries to capsize the board when it starts planing. Oh, and you have to walk out to launch. The lack of a centreboard annoyed me on the Serenity and it would annoy me on these boards.

Having a fin is fine, if you only sail in deep water, aren't really interested in going upwind in light winds or reaching planing speeds, and don't mind a high-aspect shape that tends to stall when being used by beginners.

Per 12th February 2007 04:26 PM

RE: A real STARTBOARD LONGBOARD???
 
Agree.
What I like on my Aero 127 is to be able to play in the shore break where the fun is. This needs a fin of max 32 cm to avoid hitting the bottom. What I miss on the Aero is to be able to really point away from the shore to go out and have a longer distance to ride back again. Here a centreboard would be fine in marginal conditions (and heavy!!)

A fixed 65 cm fin in the centre of the board seems quite scary for shore break fun...:o


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