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Meindert 25th September 2012 05:34 PM

2 Board Range (iSonic 117W and Futura??)
 
I currently own an IS87, iS107 and a iS117W. I want to go to less boards and more fun during hard winds. I want to keep the 117W and thinking of adding a futura. What wil be the best choice: Futura 93, 101 or even 111? I am around 85kg and sailing loft racing blades 6.3, 7.0, 7.8 and 8.6.

Remi 26th September 2012 02:45 AM

Hi Meindert,

If you want to replace your iSonic 87 & 107 by a Futura, the best one will be with the sails that you have the Futura 101 that you can use with great performances with 6.3 & 7.0. The 2 others will be perfect for the 117 Wide.

Hope this help

All the best

BelSkorpio 26th September 2012 11:37 AM

Hi Meindert,

yesterday we had wind from the South, which I always find a difficult direction in Zeeland.
I don't know really know a good spot for this wind direction.
I went to Brouwersdam - seaside and hoped to use B&J / wave equipment.
The wind force turned out to be only 18 knots average with peaks till 24, instead of the forecasted 22 average.

After long consideration and seeing a few guys struggling with their 5.5 sails, I've decide to rig my slalom equipment, i.e. IS101 + NP RSR 6.7. It turned out, not a bad choice. The sea was rather flat in the beginning but with nasty and steep chop deeper into the sea. The deeper I went into the sea, the more I got overpowered, mainly because of the pounding steep chop on my way. That's when I decided to go and get my IS87, and wow what a difference ! The thin board worked marvelous in the chop.
So think carefully when you want a slalom oriented board for stronger winds. It's not the wind that overpowers you, it's the chop. Personally, I don't like in these conditions too wide boards and tend to choose very thin and narrow tails, like on B&J boards. If you mainly sail on flat water it's completely different of course.

Meindert 26th September 2012 04:44 PM

I mainly surf on the grevelingendam, de punt and kabbelaarsbank. But is'n't the futura way less wide in the tail then the iSonics?

I am also considering buying a Kode for the really choppy days. But I have no idea which size to get. Thinking of something like a 4.5 and 5.5 sail for it... Any ideas?

BelSkorpio 26th September 2012 10:24 PM

Watch out, the Fu93 has a tail width of 40.6 while the IS87 has only 36.6. Just take a look at the specs on this web site. The Fu101 has a tail width of 42.7. Of course, it's not only the width that counts, but also the tail thickness and the cutouts. Wave boards have often pintails or swallow tails and are very thin (small thickness) which make them much easier to go through the chop.
About the Kode, yesterday there was a guy with a similar type of board. He smoked me almost every time. He was faster because he had more control. This has also to do with technique of course :)
I think that in heavy chop, the Kode will be faster for most of us "simple mortals" compared with the Isonic, just because of the better control in heavy chop.

Grevelingendam can also become very choppy with strong winds from the West to North.
In 21+ choppy conditions I'm on a AHD rebound (FSW) board of 83L with 5.5, 4.7, 4.0 wave sails (NP Combat), having the fun of my life. I'm 87kg. I don't like the Kode, because of the US box. I prefer the powerbox.

Regards.

Mike Nelson 2nd October 2012 10:51 AM

Hey Meindert,

if it helps - i have been running a i117w with a F101 and its a great combo - very well matched. The Futura's are a bit wider in the tail, but more comfortable when its rough so likely as quick or quicker in choppy conditions, depending on your style - the 101 will suit the 6.3 and 7 beautifully (i'm 84kg). i then switch to a Kode94 - possibly too much overlap with the F101 and i could possibly get away with a smaller K but conditions would dictate (ie i'm sailing medium wind, open ocean/waves - higher wind more choppy would definitely suggest a smaller Kode)

enjoy!

Meindert 3rd October 2012 09:41 AM

Hey Mike,

Thanks for your response! Which sails are you using with the kode? I have been thinking about the combo iS117W, F101 and K94 or 86 to! BUt I quess a full race sail will not work that well on a Kode....

Meindert

BelSkorpio 3rd October 2012 11:27 AM

You would be surprised.
I've used a few times 5.0 and 5.7 full race sails on my wave board, because I only wanted to switch my IS87 for my wave board without changing the sail (too much chop and too lazy to change the sail as well). It works great. No jumps & wave riding of course, but just blasting around. The race sail tends to hammer the board down. Not bad for control.

Meindert 3rd October 2012 12:51 PM

Which fin are you using then? And what sail are you normally using on the Kode?

Meindert 10th October 2012 12:34 PM

Hi Guys,

Yet another question ! If I where to go for three boards what would be the best:

- iS117W
- F101/111?
- Kode 86/94

For the Kode I am thinking of two (fast) wave sails. Something like 5.5 and 4.5....

Meindert


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