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Unregistered 21st January 2013 02:56 PM

How are average joes supposed to afford these boards?

in my current windsurf quiver i have two(2) boards that i would replace with SB products
i have a Fanatic Ultra CAT longboard of 210 liters , 374 cm length and 66 cm width
as a heavyweight this is the best longboard i have ridden
the obvious replacement would be a Phantom 377 of 263 liters, 377 cm length and 67 cm width
this board new would cost me $3500 taxes in {reduced price on 2012 version}
how is an average joe like me supposed to afford this ??
even half price used = forget about it
{not so sure about those flimsy looking batwings - prefer the 295 look}

my other favourite board is a BIC Techno Formula of 170 liters, 267 cm length and 94 cm width
as a heavyweight this is the best light wind early planer i have ridden
the obvious replacement would be a SB US of 147 liters, 240 cm length and 93 cm width
this board new would cost me $2500 taxes in {reduced price on 2012 version}
once again - how is an average joe like me supposed to afford this ??
half price is affordable, butt where is one to find such a deal ??

fortunately these boards DO come with fins - otherwise it is another $200 + for specialized fins

first the sport of windsurfing went out of the average joe's reach with the racy short boards
now it feels like it is going to go out of reach merely by inflated cost

there is one SB US in my city and NO SB Phantoms {then again i seem to be the only longboarder - besides the KONA}

in my life i managed to purchase one board new and one sail new
now this is all beyond my means
hope i can keep finding good used stuff to keep my quiver going

good luck with sales in 2013 !!!!

Krister 21st January 2013 03:33 PM

Just buy second-hand then, the cost of a 2-3 year old board is very low compared to what you get.

Remi 22nd January 2013 12:25 AM

Hi Unregistered,

If you are looking for inexpensive price, you have the Wood version, then Technora, then Ast etc.

For the Race Board recommend you the Phantom Race 320 if you are 80Kgs + or the Phantom 295 under and both are in Ast.

If you are looking for a inexpensive Formula Board we have the Formula Experience One Design who is Ast who is also far better than the Bic. But again is Formula board with his advantages and disadvantage.

For the UltraSonic 147 this board exist in 2 Technologies and deliver with fin each time in Carbon and Wood, the Wood anyway will be way lighter than the Bic and perform better in planning acceleration and speed on reach.

The last all the boards I mention are deliver with fins.

Hope you will find in this what will be your choice. Then if still to expensive then you can look for this boards as second hand.

Hope this will help.

All the best

Unregistered 22nd January 2013 09:19 PM

krister: NO used US' nor Phantoms in my area

remi: merci pour les informations
there seem to be NO Phantom 320s in my area
for this year i have some sails to replace
butt i always look to the future and how to better my quiver
SB looked like the right stuff and you gave some options
the stuff i look at seems pretty specialized and difficult to find used and new
continue de faire les videos svp ils sont très appreciés
merci encore !!

Remi 22nd January 2013 11:56 PM

Hi Unregistered,

Where are you from, anyway if you contact your distributor you can order any of this boards.
You will find here all the Starboard Distributors contact :

All the best

Unregistered 23rd January 2013 12:34 AM

I've been out of windsurfing for about 9 or 10 years, recently returned to the sport. The last board I purchased was a seatrend 68 about 10 years ago. I paid $2995 au for it, 10 years ago. I recently ordered an ultrasonic in wood contruction and it cost me $2895 au. So 10 years later I get a vastly superior product for $100 less. I think thats pretty good. Wages go up over time, it's inevitable. As wages rise so do materials and transportation costs as well as labour.

Sails as well seem to have stayed about the same, with some exceptions.(cough, neil pryde) Top end race sails are more costly these days but they have also never been better. the more exotic Masts and carbon booms seem to have blown out a bit but they are not essential items. %30 carbon masts will do the job just fine.

I agree that starboard boards are a bit costly and I practically had to sell one of my kidneys to get one but you are talking about the mercedes benz of windsurfing. You get what you pay for and the starboards are the best.

In my humble opinion %90 of windsurfing performance is the guy riding the board so just buy within your budget and let enthusiasm and dedication drive you to new heights of sailing.

Unregistered 23rd January 2013 09:20 AM

Remi: je reste à Montréal
in terms of distributors, Sharks NO longer supplies windsurfers and SilentSports has only JP.
I check www.windspirit-direct dot com for SB products

unregistered: my one and only new board cost about $1200
i cannot and never could afford $2000+ boards
as you say, I will continue to develop my skills with the good quiver that i have
will get as much TOW as i can and have FUN
fun is my middle name - just ask anyone at work :-)


Unregistered 23rd January 2013 09:22 AM

oh yeah - the Phantom and US do NOT seem to come up on the used market
this is a GOOD sign, butt does me NO good :-(


caryacord 12th October 2015 03:42 PM

2015 Phantom 377L I need to sell
I know this thread is a few years old, but I thought I'd give it a try. I'm an old windsurfer from the late 70's thru early 90's. Recently decided to get back into the sport on a long board which I was familiar with from the old days. I have bad hips and had my right hip replaced two years ago. On my second session out on the board I had a bad fall and tore the labrum in my left hip. Bottom line is I now need my left hip replaced and sad to say need to sell my brand new 2015 Phantom 377L and rig (Severne 8.5 Raceboard Sail, Severne 490 carbon mast, Maui Sails carbon race boom, Streamlined extension, Neil Pryde adjustable downhaul, and board bag). I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area and am willing to ship anywhere in the US. Board and rig only used twice, purchased last month. Will sell complete, or board, rig, or rig components separately. I will accept any reasonable offer and can use Paypal for purchase. If interested please let me know and I can send photo's and purchase verification from Bay Area Boardsports.

joe_windsurfer 13th October 2015 08:55 AM

suggest you put it for sale on the iwindsurf classifieds

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