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nakaniko Unregistered 6th February 2013 08:55 PM

Formula 158 for first windsurf attempts (of girlfriend)
 
Ok solved the tuttlebox nightmare and ready to ride this marvellous F158 as soon as spring will come in Venice, Italy, now is around 0 C.
Now some things about the second minor reason of buying it. Yes ALSO as a beginner board for my girl friend and for son of my friend. Especially because is 100 cm wide and so compatible with the used IDO I've bought, and the battenless 3,5 sqm sail I have. Some quick questions.
The IDO side wings requires flat deck, Formula has a deep concave, so: pushing down and flexing the IDO metal wings (mmm bad) or using a 5 mm spacer under it with longer screws (mmmm better)?
IDO will also avoid hits on the deck from rig (goood), but F158 wood deck is not beginner-proof. For few euros I can buy a thick eva carpet (the one for gymns) to fix on the deck with the IDO itself and using the footstraps, sounds good? How to avoid it from being slippery when wet?
Formula has no centreboard, clear. Some way to make a fake-centreboard, mmm.... The two long 70 cm DT fins that I have fixed/strapped one on each side of the board? It is not an idea of mine, in this way were made the first rudders of ancient ships...

Roger 7th February 2013 12:42 AM

Good luck with the IDO on a board as fragile as the F-158.
Same with using it as a beginner board.
An early GO (83 cm wide) or and '01 or '02 Start would be so much better,
has the center fin option and a full EVA Deck.
Roger
P.S. What happens if the IDO holds the rig up and the board sails away faster than your GF or the little guy
can swim?

Nakaniko Unregistered 7th February 2013 11:25 AM

For sure they vould be better.
BUT It not so clear that they want to "taste" windsurfing, they want to try and test if they like. So my first goal was a board FOR ME to plane as early as possible, and then ALSO to make possible to try. I know that then Formula won't be the board for them, but I also have better boards for this, IN the lucky but difficult case that my girlfriend will fall in love with the quiet windsurf riding I'll be really happy to look for a easy personal wideboard for her.
Yes I know that F158 is almost a light and delicate board, and this is the reason I want to cover its deck with a thick carpet of eva and over it fix the IDO. And use only a very small sail like my 3,5 triangular battenless dacron sail over a superlight Fiberspar Breeze mast.
Or do you think that also in this careful way I can damage the F158 deck with the leverage of an IDO?
Nothing is told on IDO and Starboard website about not compatible boards, and on the IDO website is clearly written that it can be used with all kind of board. On the FAQ italian version is clearly written that he can be used f.e. on a formula board " L'iDO puņ essere utilizzato con tutte le tavole dotate di una scassa standard come quella utilizzata per tavole da slalom, wave, formula e cosi via." Curiosly in the english version the statement ends after "standard..."
About the board sailing away on the Ido booklet (or somewhere else, I don't remember) Is told to fix on one leg of the beginner a long leash to avoid it, and so I will do

Roger 7th February 2013 02:42 PM

Nakaniko,
OK, sounds like you have thought this through.
Might be good to find a surfboard leash to use for your tether between the board and the sailor.
With some sort of pad on the deck, the IDO probably will do no damage!
I hope your GF turns out to like windsurfing. Having a "shared sport" is certainly good for a
relaitonship!
Roger

Nakaniko Unregistered 8th February 2013 02:24 PM

Thanks. I've already bought some time ago a longboard leash for the purpose of using the Serenity like a SUP (already succesfully tried suping on it but low wind limit of Serenity is so low that SUPing need is rare, hehehe).
A pair of cheap fitness carpets and I have the solution (3,5 euro x2) both for the fragility of F158 deck and... of girlfriend.
And then the two twins centerboards, hehehe, I like experimenting (when not windsurfing!).
Really I've aready got a new Chiemsee emergency fin system (9 euro on ebay.de), that is hidden on a simple mast base protector, and supposed to work in case of loosing the fin, it has to be strapped to the stern of the board. I was thinking to try it with longer straps as a centreboerd for Formula (at very low speeds), but the twin V shaped fins are so tiny...
Imagination travel when body is not windsurfing

Roger 8th February 2013 03:07 PM

Nakaniko,
I absolutely agree that using Serenity in SUP mode is a very rare thing.
Why paddle when you can have smooth glassy water with little zephyrs of
very light winds move you right along.
Much easier to hold up a small drafty sail than to paddle all the time.
Roger

nakaniko Unregistered 3rd March 2013 10:05 AM

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meanwhile here it is without the carpets


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