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crazychemical 26th June 2007 03:20 AM

surfing the gemini
 
I've been looking at the gemini for a while now and it seems like a lot of fun. However, i can't get my head around the technique a team should use for tacking and jibing ... i mean, if two sailors use respectively lets say a 6.5 and a 7.5 m² sail, or bigger even, with a width of resp about 1.95 m and 2.20m how would the rear surfer jibe without being blocked by the frontman who is jibing aswell and vica versa for a tack? ... or does the one have to tack/jibe before the other or ... how does it work?
I've never tried tandem surfing but SB does make it appealing to try someday... Has anybody done tandem, or better yet the gemini? Or are there by any chance some action pictures of clips of it? That would be cool, cuz i've been wondering for some time now...

cheers

AlexWind 26th June 2007 03:28 AM

RE: surfing the gemini
 
Maybe duckjibe is the way to go for the man behind..
It's a supposition, I hope someone more informed will help you (I'm curious!)

Guest 26th June 2007 06:47 AM

RE: surfing the gemini
 
Yeah, it would be cool to see an action clip of the gemini because it's so hard to picture what it would look like in motion.

Roger 26th June 2007 01:01 PM

RE: surfing the gemini
 
Hi guys,
Sailing the Gemini (or any tandem board for that matter) is about the most fun you can have on the water, but it takes a real "let's give it a try" attitude and you have to be able to laugh at yourselves alot.
FRont sail can "duck jibe OK, so can the rear, but getting that coordinated would be a real laugh riot as the sailor in the front would have to perfect "duck jibing in a vacuum" first.
REally, it's pretty easy, you just carve up into your tacks with the power in the rear sail, the sailor in front gets his rig over and draws the nose down and then the rear sailor sheets in and off you go.
The first few times you do this, can be real interesting.
If the board doesn't make it through the eye of the wind, you often end up "in irons" and backing up. Kinda hard to get the nose to bear off when the board is gaining way straight backwards, so you laugh, use the rigs to turn the board, and try again.
Jibing is easier (perhaps a little more dangerous for the front sailor) as the front sailor gets to flip the sail in a complete windshadow (or maybe something more like a moving wind shadow) so getting the front rig around is easy.
The rear sailor hangs on clew firstand tells the front sailor the clew is coming across so the front sailor can duck as the clew comes round.
After you get hit on the head a couple of times and you both laugh out loud about it, the coordination begins to develop and the front sailor doesn't need a helmet anymore.
Lot's of fun, and big laughs.
I've benn both on the front and the back of the Gemini with 2 4.8 m2 Sailworks Huckers on it and I wouldn't let the pilot go any faster than 25 knots (on his wrist mounted GPS.
I guess Antoine and Julian have had the Gemini up to almost 35 knots!
That's scary fast!
If something (or someone) comes apart at that speed, 2 rigs crashing and thrashing is going to make a bit of a train wreck.
Hope this helps,

Jay 26th June 2007 01:44 PM

RE: surfing the gemini
 
Crazy, here's a couple of links for you:

Google video of Gemini in action:
http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-1894753047009699092

Full Boardseeker review of Gemini with several videos (subscription required to view videos):
http://www.boardseekermag.com/special_features/the_tandem/windsurfing_tandem_028.htm

Looks like fun!

Cheers,

Jay

crazychemical 26th June 2007 06:21 PM

RE: surfing the gemini
 
Wicked, thanks for the explanations Rog, i appreciate it and it's a bit more clear now, though i doubt still have my doubts about jibes with rigs with integral widths of 2.3 m or above ... But it's much more logical now.
Hitting 25 knots with 4.8 sails? Shizzle, you must have had good winds and yeah, i mean, crashing in 32 knots would be rather painfull if you didn't know what you were doing.
thanks for the videos Jay! Unfortunatly i can't seem to reach the google vid one cuz internet keeps crashing when i try ... i'm trying to fix that and then i'll see.
And now! To find a partner for the gemini :d! La Rorchelle here i come :p ... That or i'll just sip bordeaux on the shore

cheers

crazychemical 26th June 2007 06:30 PM

RE: surfing the gemini
 
i managed to see the video! Their jibe seems to work without too many problems. Tacking failed miserably, which does seem logical as thei have to move around the mast. Okay, this has enligthed me some. Thanks all!


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