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luis_martino 17th July 2007 05:47 AM

Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
hi everybody,
which table would you recomend for me? I am 85 kg, 1,81 mts and 45 years old (intermediate sailor). I have a Gaastra GTX 9.8 (05) and a NP Saber 7,2 (06). I sail from 10 knots on.
Thank you

Hookipa18 17th July 2007 03:41 PM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Hypersonic. Formula boards only work properly with sails larger than 10m2.

Screamer 17th July 2007 05:03 PM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Hi Luis

It depends on which sail will you use most: if you are on a 9.8 80% of the time, in around 10 knots, go for the Formula. If you are mostly on a 7.2 and only ocassionally use 9.8 go for the hyper. It will take a sail that big, but it's not ideal.
It's next to impossible to find a board that will work equally well with these two sizes.

Roger 17th July 2007 06:53 PM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Hi Luis,
If you have a choice between the Hyper 133 and Hyper 111, at your weight I'd look for the HS 111. Both boards have identical outline shapes, the HS 133 is simply thicker to give it more volume, and the extra volume is probably not going to get you planing any earlier, the board will just float higher when not moving.
Got to agree with Screamer here.
Huge sails on a small platform like a Hypersonic do work, but the L/D ratio on the huge sails are going to limit your top end a bit.
You would probably be happier with an 8.5-9.0 m2 rig and get going almost as early.
Super early planing on Hypersonics with really big sails was somewhat a myth in my opinion.
Powered up, with a smaller rig and the Hypers always seemed easier to get on plane and very fast, even through the lulls once planing.
The F-Type 148 on the other hand will handle your 9.8 very nicely, but when you get down to the 7.2 m2 Saber, the 96 cm width is going to be a bit limiting (due to surface conditions, i.e. chop, etc.)
The FT 148 is not really a formula board, so it jibes better, and will be nearly as fast as the Hyper until the chop gets up. It will definietly be easier to get planing with your 9.8 m2 rig.
Hope this helps,

luis_martino 18th July 2007 03:53 AM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Hi Fellows, a couple of things:
if 148 is not a formula board (should I take Screamer / Hookipa comments as valid?)
Roger, sorry, i did not mention that I already have a carve 111 which i use with a 5,3 - 7,2 sail range. The idea is to have fun and full speed with 10 knots.

luis_martino 18th July 2007 03:54 AM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Sorry guys,: I did not thank you!!!

Roger 18th July 2007 07:46 AM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Hi Luis,
If you already have a Carve 111, then I'd go for the F-Type 148 o avoid too mcuh overlap!

Hookipa18 18th July 2007 04:23 PM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
sorry I assumed the F148 was an older formula board, if it is a free formula it would complement your carve.

luis_martino 20th July 2007 06:42 AM

RE: Hypersonic 133 vs. F 148 (both 05)
Thank you guys!!B)

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