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Dennis778 2nd August 2007 12:27 PM

Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
I currently own a Go 170 that I bought over a year ago in order to ease myself back into windsurfing after a long lay off. I was going to get myself a Carve 133, but since I'm a teacher I need a board that will maximize planing opportunities during the light winds of summer here on Long Island, NY.

I have found that I can plane on the Go in a minimum of around 12 mph of wind, however, the Go isn't all that much fun. Lately, I have been thinking of picking up a Carve 162 Wood for light air fun.

So, question is, will the Carve 162 plane in slightly lighter wind than the Go? The Carve is narrower, but since it is lighter it should plane earlier, right? or I am wrong?

Thanks for any light you can shed on this conundrum. Or would I be better off with a Formula or Formula Experience board?

thanks again for the info.

Dennis778 5th August 2007 06:41 AM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
Can't anyone attempt to answer this question, or at least give an opinion?

thanks
Dennis

Roger 5th August 2007 07:13 AM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
Hi Dennis,
What is your weight, and what size and type sails are you using?
Narrower tails normally do not give earlier planing, and lighter also does not necessarily give earlier planing.
Better technique, lighter weight sailors, larger rigs and larger span fins are normally the way to earlier planing.
What fin are you using on your GO 170 currently?
Is yours a 2005 GO 170 with a Drake Race 560 (56 cm) fin?
2005 GO 170 Specs:
170 liters; 256 cm long; 90 cm wide; 62.2 cm 1' off tail width; 10.9 Kg's/ 24.03 lbs. weight; Deep Tuttle fin box; Drake Race 560 (56 cm) fin.
Here's a link to the 2005 Products archive:
http://2005.star-board.com/products/go.asp

A Carve 162 in Technora weighs 9.3 Kg./20.5 lbs. (3.53 lbs. < than your GO 170 ) and the Wood Construction Carve 162 weighs 8.9 Kg./19.6 lbs.(4.43 lbs. < than your GO 170).
I don&#39;t think a 4.43 lb difference is going to result in any thing like "earlier planing, but if you want a more "lively" board a Carve might be a very good choice. If you weigh under 200 lbs. (90.7 Kg) and have some large > 9.0 m2 rigs I think the Carve 144 or 133 would be a better choice if you plan to keep your GO 170. If not, then the Carve 162 would be the right choice, but you will lose some low wind range vs your GO 170 due to the narrower overall and narrower 1&#39;off the tail widths.
Hope this helps,

mike 5th August 2007 10:56 PM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
2 cents from a non-formula sailor. If your primary conditions are pretty much always less than 15 knots flat water & you want to maximize your quality planing time consider going formula.

One sailing site I go to is typically lighter wind that I can sail 8.0 on a larger free-ride. However, it&#39;s typically back & forth & jibe with some upwind potential if it picks up - this is nice for the occasional relaxation day. The formula sailors can go deeper upwind, downwind & faster. You said above you wanted more interest in your sailing & this may do it. The reason I haven&#39;t gone formula is I usually have other windier options & formula for me also means a whole new sail rig - so maybe in the future.

Dennis778 6th August 2007 08:52 AM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
Roger and Mike,

Thank you very much for your thoughtful answers.
To answer issues you have both raised, I weigh 162 lbs. at the moment (down from 170 at the end of June) and the board is a 2005 Go 170. Due to the fact that my primary summer sailing area has weeds, I use a 50 cm and 56 cm Curtis Someweed fins with Windwing Hammer 8.3 and Windwing Formula Race 9.8.

Mike, I have been thinking of getting a Formula board but not sure I want to go that route. I would prefer a board like the Carve that would be more manuverable (sp?), but I would like to be able to plane in minimal wind to maximize my time on water in the summer.

thanks again.

Dennis

frigobox 8th August 2007 12:11 AM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
Maybe could you look for an Isonic 145 or 155...? Or the previous ones, F Types 138 or 148. I use a 148 with an old (2001 or 2002) NP V8 10,5 and am very happy with it.

Dennis778 9th August 2007 12:14 AM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
frigobox,

you know, you just might have something there. I did not realize that the bigger isonics used to be the f-types. they certainly seem more fun than either a full formula or GO board.

thanks for the suggestion.

frigobox 9th August 2007 11:39 PM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
And as for the 2008 models, it will again be a new story,wait for 15 august...

Dennis778 10th August 2007 04:36 AM

RE: Go170 vs. carve162 early planing
 
frigo,

yes, I am waiting for 18 August. because, after that, the 2007 boards will all get cheaper!

Seriously, I can&#39;t wait to see what new stuff they come up with.

Another question, what is the lightest wind that you can plane in with your f-type 148 and 10.5 sail? also, what is your weight and what size fin do you use?

thanks for the reply.
Dennis


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