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Unregistered 6th February 2008 05:51 PM

Acid 80 or 86
Want to get an an Acid to replace an EVO80. Which Acid would be closest to the E80 in terms of wind range and slogging capability, the PA80 or PA86.

I would assume, based on volume, that it would be the PA80 but specification gives sail range of 3.5-5.5 which suggests it is more high wind orientated than the E80 or PA86 which have quoted sail range of 4.0-6.0. I am 90kg. 4.5 to 5.8 use mainly with very occasional outings on a 4.0.

Niclas 6th February 2008 07:37 PM


I owned an E80 '04 and started to gain weight (85->90kg). At the same time, I thought about trying out faster rockered boards, so I ended up with an PA86 '06. Liked it, and actually thought it had a bit more buoyancy(sp?) than the E80, which the volume of course indicates, but I rather believe the width is a larger factor here for sub-planing conditions. The boards had similar widths (E80: 58cm, PA86: 59cm).
The PA86 was my companion for half a year when it got smashed and I bought a new '07 E90. Also, I fixed the PA86.
I altered between these two boards to see which one I was going to keep and after another 6 months, I decided the PA86 was the best animal for me (weighing between 85-92kg's depending on off-season or during season).

I sail windswell only, so to get any descent waves, we need at least good 5.3-winds. For this and down to 4.0, and waves 2-3meters, I found the PA86 offering everything I wanted. The main reason to which I chose the PA86 was that during one session I noticed that I actually was able to turn the PA86 as radical as I did on the E90. Please not however that I don't go as vertical as the E-series probably allows to. I tend to carve more than go really vertical, mainly due to my lack of surfing-abilities :)

The E90 during the above mentioned conditions, I found a bit too wide and bouncy (we have a bit of chop between the waves because of the wind). However, it was lovely in 5.3-weatehr with clean waves, using it as a FSW-board.

What I would like right now is probably an E80 with a PA86 rocker line. But that is mainly due to the last 4 sessions being in +18m/s and 3 meter waves. I desperatly need a smaller companion to the PA86.

I'm not sure it really helped, because it's all down to the conditions you sail in and your cup of tea regarding board characteristics.

Hmmm, had tor ead your post again and now I see the real question. With your weight and sail size orientation, PA86, no question about it.

Unregistered 6th February 2008 08:01 PM

Thanks for your post. Very useful.

To clarify, what I'm looking for, to paraphrase you, is an E80 with a PA rocker line. The volme/size of the E80 is perfect for my requirements but I'd prefer the PA type performance. So, should I get the PA80 or the PA86? From your post I think you are saying that the PA86 feels a bit "bigger" than the E80 despite having the same quoted 4.0 to 6.0 wind range.

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