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davide 28th March 2008 10:43 PM

Carve 101 or 111
 
Just to waste some time: I am getting a Carve 101 for allaround 6.5 sailing . I am 155/70Kg, have a ML 130 for light-light wind and too many small boards for high. Any reason to go Carve 111? The biggest sail on this will be a 7.3, only reason to consider the 111 is slogging capability although I think I should be able to uphaul the 101 (I have an old Kinetic 107L and can upahul it easily).

steveC 29th March 2008 02:09 AM

Hi davide,

Just curious about your quiver. Do you carry around all your boards with you when you go to the beach? Quite frankly, I've got a 6 board quiver in my van right now and I'm kind of maxed out.

Also, are you planning on retiring the old Kinetic once you buy your Carve?

davide 29th March 2008 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by steveC (Post 20312)
Hi davide,

Just curious about your quiver. Do you carry around all your boards with you when you go to the beach? Quite frankly, I've got a 6 board quiver in my van right now and I'm kind of maxed out.

Also, are you planning on retiring the old Kinetic once you buy your Carve?

Yep, the kinetic will be retired (it is already for sale on iwindsurf.com).
This year was a big year of new boards, I had some fairly old designs floating around. Now I am done for a good 5yrs!

What I carry around is at most 3/4 boards: (ML+) Carve+CA (+Acid or Chango) depending on the day ... not too bad and it overs any condition I might run into: the limit is my sailing ability!

PG 29th March 2008 06:02 PM

PG
 
I think that relative to your weight the C101 is a much better baord than the C111 (that is quite big). You should be able to uphaul it easily... And shloggingwise the 101 is pretty big.
The only reason to go with the C111 is to accomodate for the 7.3 that may be overwhelming for the 101 (but it may just work at your weight). But I believe that the 7.3 optimization would come at a high price (making the C111 worse in every other aspect).

davide 29th March 2008 09:55 PM

thanks for the feedback, that's about what I was thinking myself. The 7.3 should work at least in non-overpowered conditions and maybe with a 36-38 fin. The carve is going to inherit my tectonics and it will be very happy with those ...

James 30th March 2008 02:04 AM

I agree with PG.

I weigh the same as you and used to sail a 2001 Carve 99 (60 cm wide). The only time it was hard to uphaul and shlog was when the wind died but the chop / waves were still big. It was definitely comfortable with a 6.6. I sometimes rode it with a 7.5 but that wasn't ideal. I actually used a 40 cm fin on it sometimes, which worked ok with the outboard footstrap positions. I think you could be reasonably comfortable on the 101 with a 38 cm fin and the 7.3. Of course the most fun way to ride the board was with inboard straps in the back for jumping and a moderately sized fin in the low 30s cm range.

-James

Unregistered 30th March 2008 03:00 AM

I've ridden the 101 and 111 back to back and the difference a couple of cms less width makes in settling the board through chop is shocking.

davide 30th March 2008 05:32 AM

Carve 101 vs Futura 101
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 20344)
I've ridden the 101 and 111 back to back and the difference a couple of cms less width makes in settling the board through chop is shocking.

Ok ... now comes the $1,000,000 unsolvable question: Carve 101 vs Futura 101? The Futura has basically the outline of the Carve 111 but ...

James 30th March 2008 11:43 AM

The futura 101 looks super badass, and there's no question it could hold the 7.3 nicely. Also, if you got it you would have board widths in 10 cm increments; 75, 65, 55, which would be cool. I guess it comes down to $$.

Screamer 30th March 2008 03:38 PM

James
I'm not sure having boards in 10cm increments is that cool. It can work, but it depends on board size and what conditions you want covered. It can create a bit of a gap between 65/101lit and 54/74lit.
I use a 75 wide slalom with a 7.3 and then jump down to 59 wide Kombat (with a 6.0). The overlap point is around 18 knots (solid) to 21+(holey). It was my choice to minimize quiver and it works, but sometimes I wish for a 100 lit board for 6-7m sail (I'm 86kg/190lbs).
I guess we all search for a perfect quiver, and it never ends ;-)


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