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kvda 19th November 2006 04:34 PM

S-type 115 or 104
 
Recently i've bought the isonic 125 wood. And I love it, especially with RS 8m+!
Now i'm orientating for an s-type. I've tested the 2007 104 wood from a starboard crew member here in Holland- fantastic, speed and control! I ve also tested the 115 dram last year, also a great board but less loose on the water.

I want to buy the right size S-type. Is the gap between the 125 isonic and an 104 s-type too big? The s-type 115 can carry bigger sails, for instance a 7.2-7.5, the 104 can carry up to 6.5 (according to this website). And by the time I pick my V8 7.2 it's really choppy at my surfspot, so the 115 should be a good alternative for the isonic 125 in those circumstances... the 104 could be too small to fit in at that time.

Is the s-type 115 too close to the isonic 125?

tnx already for your replies!

(me: 1.90m, 90 kg's)

steveC 20th November 2006 12:24 AM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
Just curious about what sails were used with the 104 and 115 when you tested them. Also, you might want to note whether you have any boards now that are smaller than the iS125. I'm sure that folks on the Starboard team would find such information useful in giving you the most meaningful response and recommendations.


kvda 5th December 2006 03:59 PM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
I used the severne 6.7 ssr for the 104; a v6 7.5 on the 115.

I do have a 89 liter board for very strong winds...

The carve 111 seems a pretty good option too.
So the choice: stype 115/ stype 104/carve 111

It would be great to be able to use a 7.2 V8 on the board of choice.
anybody?

Willy B18 5th December 2006 06:09 PM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
The S104 carries 7.2 (RS5) with a smile and I feel that even a 7.6 would do.
Myself, I replaced my S104 by an iSonic 101 (my iSonic 125 is also replaced by the iSonic 122).
(85 kg)

Grtz
Willy

steveC 6th December 2006 12:18 AM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
Hi kvda,

While I don't have an S-Type 104, I do have a similarly sized slalom/freeride that's about a 100 liters and 61cm wide. It carries a 7.0 super easily, and I believe that it would also work well up to a 7.5. I'm not sure why Starboard limits the S-Type 104 at 6.5, especially since its smaller brother, the S-Type 93, has the same 6.5 upper limit. I could be because Super X type competitions would tend to favor smaller sail sizes to facilitate tricks and maneuvers, but frankly I'm guessing a bit.

As Willy has noted from experience, the S-Type 104 does work quite happily carrying bigger than recommended sails. Also, as you found out sailing a 6.7 sail on S-type 104, Starboard's upper limit recommendation appears to be understated. That's good for you, because the S-Type 104 is a better fit with your existing 89 and 125 liter boards. I think a 115 liter board is too close in size to your 125.

Still, it might be useful if someone on the Starboard team would comment further about the unusually low size limit.


Phill104 6th December 2006 01:21 AM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
I have a 104 and find that at my 84kg, 6.5 is really the upper limit. Once over that it doesn't really plane any earlier. It is a fantastic board though.
I will soon be selling it though to make room for an iS87. It really is a shame to see it go but I just won't have room.

sergio 6th December 2006 05:42 AM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
The 104 works perfect with SSR 7,6, 80kg but with the drake slalom pro 34 or another slalom fin this size or bigger. The true volumes are 104(105) and 115(117), so I think the election is only a matter of sailor weight. The two are very similar in feeling but there`s a bigger jump between the 115 and the 126, not as much as in the 2005 boards but still obvious.

hans kleingeld 6th December 2006 02:32 PM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
Why don't you give it a try with the iSonic101 or 105. The iS125 is a very nice board as you menton. I have surfed an iS105 and this board really handles a huge wind- and sailrange. I have sailed it with an Overdrive 7.5 and with my 95 kg's this was perfectly in balance. It feeled like I could go even bigger, only the minor volume of this board may give limitations in deep water and powerless winds. I also surfed the iS105 with stronger winds suitable for 6.0 mtr, but then the Sonic 85 is easier to surf if winds are very steady. I never sailed the S-type, it really may have some advantages over the iS, but the big advance of the iS105,101over the S-type according to what I heared is that the iS handle big sails (+7 mtr) whith much more ease and balance:p.

kvda 22nd December 2006 06:39 PM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
The isonic 101 isn't the board i want, because of the fact that the smallest sailsize is about 5.5...

I do think the 104 stype is the right choice, especially for the fact that i have to use the board in choppy conditions and want to use it with sails from a smal 5 to 7.

Also thinking about a carve (101/111) , but I am afraid it's not as fast as an stype...

kvda 24th December 2006 10:15 PM

RE: S-type 115 or 104
 
so, the 104 s-type it's gonna be.

second choice is technora vs. wood. weight differences don't bother me, but dynamics and speed is an issue. the 104 will be used in bump en jump conditions, so a strong product is needed.

Is the wood edition so much faster and more dynamic than the technora? And what about durability?


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